$27,500--I'll take it

[densoo]

For seven hours, the passengers on JetBlue flight 504 have been grounded at Bradley Airport, with no bathrooms and no water, according to passengers on the plane who are Tweeting and others who contacted NBC Connecticut.

A paraplegic on the flight had a medical issue, and about seven hours after the plane landed. It was at that point that police and firefighters came onboard to render medical assistance.

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...violations of its three-hour tarmac delay rule. The rule stipulates that tarmac delays longer than three hours are subject to a fine of up to $27,500 per passenger.

 

[saabcaptain]

Goes to the goverment not the passenger.

 

[densoo]

Goes to the goverment not the passenger.

Whaa?! Oh well.

 

[trip]

Gonna have to put ladders on every jet, there's the door and the terminal is that way...

 

[BrokeFOsho]

Pilots diverted to BDL and then begged for a gate, or stair for 7 hours. The governor of CT came to apologize for the horrible handling.

 

[ackattacker]

There are a few "outs" in the tarmac delay rule. If JetBlue can show that it had an appropriate contingency plan in place and that it adhered to the plan it may get out of any fines and/or civil lawsuits. If at any point they deviated from the plan then they are screwed.

 

[IBNAV8R]

A real captain would have used the emergency slides.

 

[scoreboardII]

into a snow storm?

right......

 

[Stifler's Mom]

BDL is a city that JetBlue serves. So where were the station agents?

How about one of these? http://media.cygnus.com/files/cygnus/image/GSM/2007/NOV/300x300/airstair_10025716.png

 

[labbats]

Hope they left their transponder on the whole 7 hours!

 

[AftCG182]

There's no excuse for this. Poor handling of the situation by the crew. Exercise emergency authority and get everyone off the plane. Watching this story on the tv made me cringe...

 

[BentOver]

I like JB...But how in the world can they keep allowing this to happen..?

 

[CA1900]

BDL's ramps are concrete. They're exempt from the tarmac rule.

 

[AftCG182]

I like JB...But how in the world can they keep allowing this to happen..?

Just a clarification... my post was not a dig at JB. Got a couple of friends there. They've got nothing but good things to say about their company.

I'm guilty of armchair quarterbacking, but come on. How many more times is this going to happen?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

into a snow storm?

right......

Then its an amusement park ride....get their card prior to exiting and charge them 20 bucks for the E ticket ride...

 

[brokedash]

Someday pax are going to learn to open the emergancy exits

 

[Quimby]

They should have had the crazy FA on board who could have grabbed a beer & jumped down the slide ahead of the pax....right before he told them to F off.

 

[airplane wizard]

The airline president, V.P., and CEO as well as the top airport executives should all have to spend 7hrs stuck on a plane with no water etc.

 

[johnsonrod]

As a pax, I probably would have SHAT in front of the pilot door after the toilets became unusable. That would have prompted an immediate evacuation due to smell. Problem solved... :crying::laugh:

Seriously, how can any JB pilot allow this to happen after the Valentine's Day PR disaster a few years back? Really? C'mon guys... Declare an emergency on the ground!!!! Tell them a mutiny is happening - whatever it takes!!!!!!!!!!

 

[airplane wizard]

Couldn't the pax just call 911 and say they are being held hostage?

 

[jonjuan]

Couldn't the pax just call 911 and say they are being held hostage?

10 or so pax did. Apparently emergency services were already busy with real storm related emergencies- you know, traffic accidents, trees down across roads, powerlines, etc.

 

[Daytonaflyer]

Just have someone open the door, lower the stairs, and tell anybody onboard that the flight crew does not condone anybody leaving, but we cannot force you to stay onboard. Then watch as everybody walks off the airplane and call airport ops to come deal with them.

 

[herewego again]

Just have someone open the door, lower the stairs, and tell anybody onboard that the flight crew does not condone anybody leaving, but we cannot force you to stay onboard. Then watch as everybody walks off the airplane and call airport ops to come deal with them.

And pray tell, where would the stairs be located?????

 

[scoreboardII]

Not understanding why after say 6 hours the captain didn't dial 411 and get the number for the local FBO and ask that airstairs be brought over and offer them huge dollars to do it. Then tell op's to open a jetway door, problem solved, next.

Not understanding why after 5 hours the JB crack Op's team didn't call for airstairs, figuring they just did this great publicity stunt last year.

JB folks, whats up with this? Why don't we ever hear about a Delta or SWA or UAL flight sitting for 7 hours?

 

[Candlerman]

Not to excuse Jetblue but....AA delay during a DFW ice storm is the one who started the whole 3 hour tarmac delay thing. During the February '07 JFK storm there where several Delta 6+ hour tarmac delays. Yes, the media only focussed on Jetblue but you don't believe everything the media says do you? United isn't the only airline to lose/break a guitar. you know what I mean?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

CNN has some audio of the pilot trying to get help from ATC.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/10/31/am-jet-blue-pilot-tarmac-help.cnn

 

[Salukipilot4590]

There's no excuse for this. Poor handling of the situation by the crew. Exercise emergency authority and get everyone off the plane. Watching this story on the tv made me cringe...

...only to freeze in the snow...

Seriously, how can any JB pilot allow this to happen after the Valentine's Day PR disaster a few years back? Really? C'mon guys... Declare an emergency on the ground!!!! Tell them a mutiny is happening - whatever it takes!!!!!!!!!!

I don't wanna Monday QB or anything but this is what I would have done after about 2:30.

Then again what do you think the chances are he'd be canned either way? Kinda stuck between a rock and a hooker's ass at this point. OPS, the local FBO, the Tower, CFR, and common sense went bye-bye once all hell froze over.

Not pointing fingers or placing blame AT ALL...it's just another situation we can ALL learn from.

10 or so pax did. Apparently emergency services were already busy with real storm related emergencies- you know, traffic accidents, trees down across roads, powerlines, etc.

[PC mode off now]

Calling 911? Seriously?

Deal with it. 8-|

 

[waterski]

People this was planned. JB managment needed an excuse to get rid of profit sharing.

 

[MCDU]

Choosing BDL as the alternate was poor planning. A little more gas and use Pittsburgh. Plenty of gates and an airport with lots of resources.

M

 

[FDJ2]

CNN has some audio of the pilot trying to get help from ATC.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/10/31/am-jet-blue-pilot-tarmac-help.cnn

"Look we can't seem to get any help from our company." JB captain

One has to wonder why not?