170/175 and CRJ900

[kf4amu]

I think it's funny that some of the same people that say this "put your kids through college" are usually the same ones that give sh** to an Embry riddle grad for having his "rich mommy and daddy" pay for all their school.
How about teaching your kids to work hard for their sh*t and earn some scholarships? Especially if they want to be a doctor or follow in their daddy's retarded a$$ foot steps!

Or better yet, if you really want to go to Riddle, work there full time and get free tuition plus a salary. Graduate 3 years later with 0 debt and a lot of work experience...which equals good letters of recommendation and probably a lot more respect than someone who got it given to them from a trust fund, or took down 100k in loans.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I agree that of you go to ERAU, go get the business degree. It is better to go to a four year liberal arts college, and then get your certs.
Now there are connections that ERAU has that only Prude, Auburn, and UND have. So there is a benefit to go there. Just do not do you cert work there. Do the 400 level sim stuff and that is it. Save about 60K.

 

[Tristar]

I think it's funny that some of the same people that say this "put your kids through college" are usually the same ones that give sh** to an Embry riddle grad for having his "rich mommy and daddy" pay for all their school.
How about teaching your kids to work hard for their sh*t and earn some scholarships? Especially if they want to be a doctor or follow in their daddy's retarded a$$ foot steps!

I beg your pardon?

I would not pay for one of my kids to go to ERAU because I don't think it is worthwhile. You get a degree from a university which has essentially no standing outside of aviation. I would do what I can to help my kids through a "regular" university (preferably in a field of study with broad application) - personally I value education and if I could help them come out without a huge debt I think that would be a plus. Sorry if that offends you.

And for the record (not that it's any of your damn business), I am encouraging them to work hard and get good grades so they can get scholarships. They'll need them since with the continued erosion of this industry I most likely WON'T be able to help them as much as I'd like to.

Does ERAU produce a decent pilot? Yes. Better than anywhere else? No, based on what I've seen they are within the bell curve of many other schools. I take issue with people putting too much stock in the suposed cachet of the name, when in fact all they are doing is paying a premium price for an average product.

I basically agree with what I think AC is saying - except I think you would be MUCH better served getting a business degree from any of a number of state or liberal arts schools (and saving money in the process) and getting your ratings on the side.

Now back to the actual topic of the thread - I take issue with ever more flying moving from the mainlines to the regionals. I stand by my statement of around 20 years ago that the key to scope was to bring everything possible to the mainline, not the other way around. As far as I'm concerned, 19 seaters with Brand X painted on the side or codesharing should be brought onto the mainline. As was previously pointed out, doing so ultimately creates more jobs, with better work rules and pay. This drives the compensation level for the entire industry higher, so maybe I can make enough to not have to eat cat food when I retire.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Amen. I agree with that and will do what I can to make it possible.

 

[xjhawk]

i have finished the first page, I am not reading anymore. Someone spouted off about $25 an hour.....yeah blame that one on the pilots.....you and everyone else who hates low paid pilot are idiots. Who is at fault.....the business who does what they can to make a buck? Or the Union (ALPA) who has done NOTHING to prevent such things from happening? Listen, I am sure ALPA spent millions fighting the age 65 rule, then when the cause was lost, they jumped on board- I am so proud of ALPA.

Why not fight the good fight, start with quality of life for the junior members of our profession. It would be easy enough to say....set a bar for pay on a per seat basis...

what will ALPA's next "bad" fight be when there is so many good ones out there.

set a "by this date" you will have this pay or your main line shuts down. One National contract per brand name.....easy enough. that was sarcasm.....

 

[ACL65PILOT]

One little item that might put that desire in the dirt; Railway Labor Act. Go read it. It is a great bedtime read.