10 CR7s for Gojets?

[say again]

The fire at the kid's party where George beats everyone out? Isn't that the same one where he gets caught eating a chocolate eclair out of the trash?

Yes it is!! Great show. :beer:

 

[urflyingme?!]

So let me get this straight, TSA pilots did not like GoJets pilots because they used them to whipsaw them while they were in negotiations? What do Eagle pilots think of TSA pilots who whipsawed them while they were in negotiations?
I fly with a GoJets guy, he is now one of our Global Express captains, he seems very likable, I just hope he never whipsaws me!

NO. TSA pilots asked for a rate to fly the new aircraft. The company started a whole new airline to avoid paying the going rate to pilots. Now EVERY PILOT in the country has to compete against these asshats substandard price. Your G7 pall is a ******************************.

Also, for the record, when a business competes on a low price, they are usually trying to expand their market share or work on volume. When an employee competes on price he is just desperate and shooting himself in the foot. W*************************.

 

[GLEXPilot]

NO. TSA pilots asked for a rate to fly the new aircraft. The company started a whole new airline to avoid paying the going rate to pilots. Now EVERY PILOT in the country has to compete against these asshats substandard price. Your G7 pall is a ******************************.

Also, for the record, when a business competes on a low price, they are usually trying to expand their market share or work on volume. When an employee competes on price he is just desperate and shooting himself in the foot. W*************************.

He is actually a very nice guy, he spent a few years, got his time and now makes a little over 200K a year flying a few days a month. So you may think he is a dick, but to me he looks pretty smart. Without GoJets he would have never gotten the turbine PIC he needed for his current job.
And I just looked at GoJets pay scale and they are pretty much on par with all the other regionals.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

So let me get this straight, TSA pilots did not like GoJets pilots because they used them to whipsaw them while they were in negotiations? What do Eagle pilots think of TSA pilots who whipsawed them while they were in negotiations?
I fly with a GoJets guy, he is now one of our Global Express captains, he seems very likable, I just hope he never whipsaws me!

If he says he was ALPA, he was a TSA guy who crossed over to GheyJhets, effectively harpooning his coworkers in the back. Caution he will stab you just as quickly. While some GheyJhetters were hired after the TSA debacle, the ones who crossed were and are considered the worst. If they were dying of thirst on the side of the road, I wouldn't stop the water truck to give them a drink, but would swerve to run them over....

 

[say again]

He is actually a very nice guy, he spent a few years, got his time and now makes a little over 200K a year flying a few days a month. So you may think he is a dick, but to me he looks pretty smart. Without GoJets he would have never gotten the turbine PIC he needed for his current job.
And I just looked at GoJets pay scale and they are pretty much on par with all the other regionals.

I think you're missing the point on what people are telling you.

 

[GLEXPilot]

I think you're missing the point on what people are telling you.

I understand the argument if this was 10 years ago, but most of the people bitching about Gojets were not even there when TSA was in negotiations.
Regionals are stepping stones to something bigger and better, get in get your time and get out, no sense bickering about which bottom feeder regional is worse than the other. They all suck, just have fun, fly the airplane and get a new job as soon as you have the time.

 

[lookin4better]

So let me get this straight, TSA pilots did not like GoJets pilots because they used them to whipsaw them while they were in negotiations? What do Eagle pilots think of TSA pilots who whipsawed them while they were in negotiations?
I fly with a GoJets guy, he is now one of our Global Express captains, he seems very likable, I just hope he never whipsaws me!

It was ok when they "stole" Eagles flying. Get it?

It's like hookers fighting over a corner. No regional is better than another.... and no flying sure "belongs" to any one regional. It is mainline's flying to do with as they chose.

GLEX, these same guys complaining about Gojets have been for years... and they are still stuck... all this while most of the first years worth of Gojet pilots were either furloughed AA or smart regional guys that went there for a fast upgrade and are now at UPS, FDX, tons at SWA, Delta or United.... it worked fine for them, and sure won't be detrimental to anyone there now. These guys knocking Gojet on here live in a pipe dream imaginary world.

Yeah , their (g7 guys/gals) careers are sure "f'd" up--hahaha. If you consider getting their dream jobs f'd up. ....

If you don't like G7, then stay where you are and do nothing... those that make things happen, well... make things happen. Those that wait.... well, they lose.

These guys know nothing and it shows..... make things happen, never sit and wait for things to happen to you.

wow I sound like a hard core conservative.

I mean it though, get off your a%% and stop complaining about your situation.... fix it or shut up!

 

[lookin4better]

I'd just like to say Gojets is a dump of an airline.

Coming from a Mesa guy....

... that's special.

 

[Freight Dog]

It was ok when they "stole" Eagles flying. Get it?

It's like hookers fighting over a corner. No regional is better than another.... and no flying sure "belongs" to any one regional. It is mainline's flying to do with as they chose.

Oh no you di'in't just go there.. :laugh:

 

[lookin4better]

Oh no you di'in't just go there.. :laugh:

Well... lol it's true.

They are all just contract work. Once that realization is made, it is simple to digest the situation. Get the time, move on. If things are not working out, make them work by moving on to place that will make them work.

People that wait and do nothing deserve what they get.

 

[ex j-41]

I understand the argument if this was 10 years ago, but most of the people bitching about Gojets were not even there when TSA was in negotiations.
Regionals are stepping stones to something bigger and better, get in get your time and get out, no sense bickering about which bottom feeder regional is worse than the other. They all suck, just have fun, fly the airplane and get a new job as soon as you have the time.

Oh. I guess if you put it that way then it's ok to create an alter ego airline and screw people out of job/pay.
It was the TSA pilots that make the profits for hulas to start go j..... Anyway.
A go jets pilot owes their income to TSA pilots.

 

[GLEXPilot]

Oh. I guess if you put it that way then it's ok to create an alter ego airline and screw people out of job/pay.
It was the TSA pilots that make the profits for hulas to start go j..... Anyway.
A go jets pilot owes their income to TSA pilots.

So much wrong with this.
Of course it is OK for someone to start any company they like, if TSA pilots were that concerned about other peoples jobs why would they agree to fly American Eagle and cost some pilots their jobs?
All regional jobs are contract work, once you realize that as a regional pilot you will be a lot happier.

 

[ex j-41]

TSA pilots don't choose when and for who they fly. But you certainly have a choice to fly at GoJets or not.

 

[Ops check good]

If you haven't noticed... times are tough. Maybe taking a job a go jets is not somebody's first choice but it is still a job. My first airline was the bottom of all bottoms but guess what? It got me the experience to land a job at a very good company. Should I have just stayed at my pay nothing part time job waiting for a good airline to call me back? I think not.

 

[ex j-41]

Well good luck getting on my Jumpseat.
I'm the last person who is gonna help you get to work so you can Take my airplanes and fly them for cheaper.

 

[Ops check good]

Good thing my commute to work only involves being in my car for ten minutes then. By the way... I do not nor have I ever worked at go jet, just raised a valid point about people needing jobs to feed their families.

 

[labbats]

We all have to look in the mirror sometimes. If you went to GoJets when it started then you have to live with that. If you go now then I'm sure it doesn't bother you because it's just another regional now. I remember seeing people leave regionals for GoJets when it started and I'm sure it helped their career. I could have done the same but I'd have that same problem with the mirror every day. No thanks.

 

[flyboyzii]

We all have to look in the mirror sometimes. If you went to GoJets when it started then you have to live with that. If you go now then I'm sure it doesn't bother you because it's just another regional now. I remember seeing people leave regionals for GoJets when it started and I'm sure it helped their career. I could have done the same but I'd have that same problem with the mirror every day. No thanks.

That's odd. When I was there (Nov '05) all I saw were TSA pilots, TWA pilots (AA furloughs), Chicago Express pilots, Indy Air pilots and some from Corporate Air. Then later I saw United pilots (furloughs), Aloha pilots, Midwest pilots, ATA pilots. Then I started seeing low time CFI's. Then I left. I only saw one guy come from another regional that wasn't furloughed. I did see some from Mesa when they furloughed. Your information is wrong. I was there and saw it first hand.

 

[labbats]

A couple of guys left from Eagle for the upgrade. I assumed it was system wide for all regionals. Maybe it wasn't.

 

[say again]

We all have to look in the mirror sometimes. If you went to GoJets when it started then you have to live with that. If you go now then I'm sure it doesn't bother you because it's just another regional now. I remember seeing people leave regionals for GoJets when it started and I'm sure it helped their career. I could have done the same but I'd have that same problem with the mirror every day. No thanks.

Some people would eat their young for a job, while others take a job to feed their young. It's always going to be like this, whether it's right or wrong for t he industry.