10/250

[msculley6905]

Yes. We have. The company can afford 10/$250 NOW without any impact to most of the owners, except Mr. Buffett. He is just going to have to get his money a little slower.

Keep in mind the company is making money on operations only at this time. A lot of money. To add on top of that, they are selling airplanes now. A lot of planes.

There is no reason an owner needs to even know their pilots are finally being paid a good wage, except that the service and mood of the crews is going to be more superb.

....this person does not

 

[msculley6905]

Don't get me wrong, I believe that the pilot group (and every employee for that matter, myself included) deserves a bump in pay now that the company is consistently profitable...it's the easiest way to keep workers happy which ultimately keeps customers happy and remaining as customers...money talks when speaking with professionals, not ice cream socials at BWY, jeans day or feel good emails...profit sharing was a major plus in my book.

But at the same time, I understand why my salary CANNOT and WILL NOT be doubled just by remaining in my same position for 10 years. And there are many, many, many less of us than pilots....and we earn much, much less even at current rates.

 

[fischman]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That person is on management's payroll and knows only what he is told.

 

[fischman]

Don't get me wrong, I believe that the pilot group (and every employee for that matter, myself included) deserves a bump in pay now that the company is consistently profitable...it's the easiest way to keep workers happy which ultimately keeps customers happy and remaining as customers...money talks when speaking with professionals, not ice cream socials at BWY, jeans day or feel good emails...profit sharing was a major plus in my book.

But at the same time, I understand why my salary CANNOT and WILL NOT be doubled just by remaining in my same position for 10 years. And there are many, many, many less of us than pilots....and we earn much, much less even at current rates.

Are you foolish enough to actually believe in profit sharing? And you say I don't understand business??? HA!!!

Time to grow up.

 

[fischman]

Yes. We have. The company can afford 10/$250 NOW without any impact to most of the owners, except Mr. Buffett. He is just going to have to get his money a little slower.

Keep in mind the company is making money on operations only at this time. A lot of money. To add on top of that, they are selling airplanes now. A lot of planes.

There is no reason an owner needs to even know their pilots are finally being paid a good wage, except that the service and mood of the crews is going to be more superb.

....this person does not

Please... Oh PLEASE tell me how I'm wrong. I can't WAIT to hear this...

 

[msculley6905]

@fisch

My payroll check says Netjets, same as yours...and look me up on NJ email based on my username...it's not that hard to find out who I am

I didn't say you were wrong, I said you don't know how it works...since you're on the topic of growing up, let me dumb it down so an immature child like yourself could understand....if Dad said curfew was at 9, and you consistently got home at 10, what happened? Got in trouble. If WB wants $X ROI, and we only deliver X-Y consistently, what happens? Right now we're always getting home at 8...and 10/250 is like getting home at 9:10 and sneaking in the window, trying not to get caught...might be ok for a while, but will be trouble later on

Just as you would like to try and have me prove you wrong, I'd like to see the union's projection on the bottom-line impact of 10/250 over the next, say, 8 years, as more and more PICs get tenure. I don't claim to know specifics, but I know reality. Seems you claim know specifics, but not reality

 

[fischman]

@fisch

My payroll check says Netjets, same as yours...and look me up on NJ email based on my username...it's not that hard to find out who I am

I didn't say you were wrong, I said you don't know how it works...since you're on the topic of growing up, let me dumb it down so an immature child like yourself could understand....if Dad said curfew was at 9, and you consistently got home at 10, what happened? Got in trouble. If WB wants $X ROI, and we only deliver X-Y consistently, what happens? Right now we're always getting home at 8...and 10/250 is like getting home at 9:10 and sneaking in the window, trying not to get caught...might be ok for a while, but will be trouble later on

Just as you would like to try and have me prove you wrong, I'd like to see the union's projection on the bottom-line impact of 10/250 over the next, say, 8 years, as more and more PICs get tenure. I don't claim to know specifics, but I know reality. Seems you claim know specifics, but not reality

I don't think you are familiar with reality at all. Especially if you actually are a scheduler. Make your lines look pretty on the computer screen instead of letting the crews get ready for the next day. Let us worry about our CBA and the owners. We're good at it.

 

[Semore Butts]

Hey Owner, good to see you posting.

Owner, That COLA the company has charged you all those years didn't go to us, that's for sure.

To Mscully, profit sharing? If we took the ridiculous concessions that "hogwarts" offered you could kiss your profit sharing goodbye. That's just a ploy to get you to do exactly what you are doing, making us the villain. (We were here way before the EMT, when they are done raping and pillaging the company you and I work at, they will be gone)

Respectfully, Semore

 

[msculley6905]

I don't think you are familiar with reality at all. Especially if you actually are a scheduler. Make your lines look pretty on the computer screen instead of letting the crews get ready for the next day. Let us worry about our CBA and the owners. We're good at it.

Care to elaborate on my skewed view on reality? What do we do that keeps you from getting the job done? (PM me if you want some real answers to your questions) As far as I know it's all legal based on your last mutually agreed upon contract with the company. Perhaps you'd like a 10 hr max duty day for 10/250 as well?

 

[fischman]

Care to elaborate on my skewed view on reality? What do we do that keeps you from getting the job done? (PM me if you want some real answers to your questions) As far as I know it's all legal based on your last mutually agreed upon contract with the company. Perhaps you'd like a 10 hr max duty day for 10/250 as well?

Actually, yes. I feel 12 hours should be a max with OT over 10 hours. Anything more is not safe in my opinion.

And no, during section 6 negotiations I will not elaborate at all in public or private what you do to the schedule that is stupid. Every pilot at the company knows exactly what I'm talking about though.