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Vinny

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Deposition of K.R. taken upon cross-examination and given for The United States District Court for the Northern District of Ohio, Eastern Division, in April of 2004:

Q. Do you have any military service?
A. Yes.
Q. In what branch?
A. In the Air Force.
Q. When was that?
A. I was in the Air Force ROTC program from 1974 to
1977.
Q. That's while you were at Notre Dame?
A. Yes, it is.
Q. Any service in the military after you graduated
from Notre Dame?
A. No.

I find these answers interesting especially in light of this interview which K.R. gave to WKYC Cleveland in 2012, regarding his company Nextant Aerospace, in which he makes the following statement:

"I'm an innovator in just my field, aviation, which I learned to love in the Air Force."


Here is a link to the WKYC article, you can find that statement 13 paragraphs down in this:

http://archive.wkyc.com/rss/article/260899/45/See-the-Possible--Nextant-Aerospace

Also, listen to the audio portion, 45 seconds into it, this statement is made, "Nextant is the creation of native Clevelander K.R. who learned about flying in the Air Force."

Yes, of course there's more. Check out page 8 of this (link below) where K.R. is introduced this way. "K. R. loved aviation but not the uncertainty of the industry. An Air Force-trained pilot, his brief stint working for a commercial airline ended when he was furloughed."

http://thefedeligroup.com/media/19215/fedeli_factor_2012.pdf

So it seems K.R. has been engaging in what has commonly been referred to as "Stolen Valor".

This is from a Wikipedia article about Military Imposters (underscore added for emphasis):

A military imposter is a person who makes false claims about his or her military service in civilian life. This includes claims by people that have never been in the military as well as lies or embellishments by genuine veterans, and also includes wearing uniforms or medals that were never issued. In the United States since the early 2000s, the term "stolen valor" has become popular slang for this kind of behavior, so named for the 1998 book of that name.

Motivations

Reasons for posing as a member of the military or exaggerating one's service record vary, but the intent is almost always about gaining the respect and admiration of others. Philosophy professor Verna V. Gehring describes such people as "virtue imposters," in that they don't necessarily adopt the identity of another person, but instead adopt a false history for themselves to impersonate virtues and characteristics. Many are only motivated by social recognition, attempting to exploit the reverence and respect for veterans in their country. These individuals often become absorbed in a fantasy of being a veteran that they attempt to live out in real life, sometimes even inserting themselves into public events or ceremonies, or volunteering for interviews with journalists about their alleged experiences. Others are motivated by more direct gains, such as impressing employers, casting directors, audiences, investors, voters in political campaigns or romantic interests.

Notable military imposters

Jesse Macbeth - anti-war activist who claimed to be an Army Ranger and veteran of the Iraq War. In reality he was discharged from the Army after only 44 days for being "unfit for duty." Confessed in federal court after being charged with possessing a forged or altered military discharge certificate and making false statements in seeking benefits from the Veterans Administration.

Micah Wright - Author and anti-war activist who claimed to be an Army Ranger involved in the United States invasion of Panama and several other special operations. He was an ROTC student in college, but never took a cosmission and never served in the military. Confessed an apologized online after learning an expose was being written.

Shall we add K.R. to the list?
 
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Where's warlord? I can't believe he hasn't jumped on this thread!
 
Name calling is not a rebuttal. Tell us about Kenn's military service. I'd love to hear your apology for that one.
 

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