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Is that kinda like the NIC award, which was accepted by the West, East, and Parker before it started? I have a feeling the first set of arbitrators will state the NIC award should be used in the US list, because if they don't, they are negating their future awards to renegade groups like the East-holes, who just don't care about "binding" awards....


Bye Bye---General Lee

You can feel all you want, Genital (although most of us would be happy if you'd just go back to feeling yourself).
 
The arbitrators will use the lists they ask for, not necessarily those proffered by USAPA. They will not re-do the Nic arbitration.
 
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You can feel all you want, Genital (although most of us would be happy if you'd just go back to feeling yourself).

I can't wait to read your reaction after the NIC is used. Good ole USTUPID is dead now, and you will lose. You'll probably go back to being a bad Chippendale for extra money, although you'll always get a quarter tip in "the slot" from your buddy DCAA320. Enjoy that dipwads!



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Then why does the Protocol Agreement (which was agreed to by the Company, the APA and USAPA) state that they will use the 3 lists currently in effect on December 9, 2013?

I wouldn't believe everything you hear from Fergie.

Snapshot date. Nothing more.
 
Every time there is a seasonal reduction on a fleet those who had previously been awarded a position (that should have gone to a west bidder) will lose the position, likely for quite a while. Eventually the west pilots will occupy the seats they should have had, but the money lost would have to be recouped from USAPA in court when it is proved that USAPAs strategy was to delay by failing to negotiate in good faith and thereby deny the west pilots their rightful positions. The combination go loose laptops and USAPA faithful who feel betrayed by their feckless leaders should make proving this motive pretty easy.
 
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The M-B arbitrators will be only tasked with the integration of US and AA. The will not re-open the AWA-US integration, but simply take the list that the company accepted which was the NIC and use that as the US list.

Simple, legal and efficient.

USAPA lost any source of funding to continue its epic struggle against itself.

Would you like me to wake you up from your dream there - bird man?
 
I'll remember who depressed wages turning down much needed raises as well.
93 times your contract was gutted down to worse than most regional airlines. That didn't stir your group.
But god forbid a west pilot go above your furloughed pilots. Your misunderstanding of seniority vs longevity, and your pipe dream fantasy that you would have had a job at all if america west didn't buy you has cost us all at the bargaining table. I fear for my america west friends in dealing with the APA- and it will suck for my good friends at usair- but the vast majority of you deserve to be absolutely raped in this next SLI.

Wow - telling some pilot group they should be raped in a SLI - oh yeah I forgot - you guys have experience in how to do that
 
Says the keyboard tough guy idiot.

You never add anything of substance on this board and can't debate your way out of a paper bag. You are a big D-bag. And, I can't wait to watch what happens to you and your Eastie brethren. Popcorn ready!



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Would you like me to wake you up from your dream there - bird man?

The Westies have been in a bad dream for the last 7-8 years thanks to you and your jackhole partners. Your group accepted Nicolau from the beginning (had him as a choice) and everyone signed to accept the award prior.

You are dreaming if you think the other 6 arbitrators won't be thinking about what could happen to their own livelihood if they don't allow an arbitrated award from a previous binding arbitration case to stand. I can't wait for them to ask the Eastie lawyers "so, what happened to the NIC award?" Lots of "uhhhh, ummmm, uhhhh, duhhhhh" will be heard I bet.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
The Westies have been in a bad dream for the last 7-8 years thanks to you and your jackhole partners. Your group accepted Nicolau from the beginning (had him as a choice) and everyone signed to accept the award prior.

You are dreaming if you think the other 6 arbitrators won't be thinking about what could happen to their own livelihood if they don't allow an arbitrated award from a previous binding arbitration case to stand. I can't wait for them to ask the Eastie lawyers "so, what happened to the NIC award?" Lots of "uhhhh, ummmm, uhhhh, duhhhhh" will be heard I bet.



Bye Bye---General Lee


Really?

So a 1999 AW narrowbody PHX FO expects to slide right in with the early 1990's AA narrowbody lineholding Captain or lineholding 777 FO (Narrowbody CA pay/767 Reserve CA pay) wearing his "St Nic" T-Shirt.

Get real. Even worse would be the boning the post 1998 hires as they watch the AW crowd take every 777/787 slot 10-15 years from now.
 
Wow - telling some pilot group they should be raped in a SLI - oh yeah I forgot - you guys have experience in how to do that

Another attempt to deflect attention away from what you've done.
We've had the air tran debate.
Dozens of threads-
So you think you can creep this one to another of those because???

You don't like this criticism?

You shouldn't.

But it's your legacy
 
Really?

So a 1999 AW narrowbody PHX FO expects to slide right in with the early 1990's AA narrowbody lineholding Captain or lineholding 777 FO (Narrowbody CA pay/767 Reserve CA pay) wearing his "St Nic" T-Shirt.

Get real. Even worse would be the boning the post 1998 hires as they watch the AW crowd take every 777/787 slot 10-15 years from now.

You're applying the logic of Nic to you and AA. What makes you think that would happen?

The Nic award will be merged with APA favoring APA -
You don't get a redo on Nic

Every SLI begins with each side submitting a seniority list.
Then arbitrators will look at all sides of those two lists.
You seem to think that you could leapfrog your spot on the Nic.

That would undermine the entire point of BINDING arbitration -
 
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Really?

So a 1999 AW narrowbody PHX FO expects to slide right in with the early 1990's AA narrowbody lineholding Captain or lineholding 777 FO (Narrowbody CA pay/767 Reserve CA pay) wearing his "St Nic" T-Shirt.

Get real. Even worse would be the boning the post 1998 hires as they watch the AW crowd take every 777/787 slot 10-15 years from now.

Uhhhh, the NIC would be used in the AA SLI. Why? Because that is what was awarded in BINDING arbitration in the USAir case. As far as what that Former US list will be able to hold after the eventual AA SLI? I have no idea, that would be up to the final 3 arbitrators. It's arbitration, and you guys signed up for it, and it's a gamble. If you don't understand the award, there will be an explanation attached that you can read. Good luck!



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
You never add anything of substance on this board and can't debate your way out of a paper bag. You are a big D-bag. And, I can't wait to watch what happens to you and your Eastie brethren. Popcorn ready!
Bye Bye---Genital Lee

I don't debate with idiots.
 
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Really?

So a 1999 AW narrowbody PHX FO expects to slide right in with the early 1990's AA narrowbody lineholding Captain or lineholding 777 FO (Narrowbody CA pay/767 Reserve CA pay) wearing his "St Nic" T-Shirt.

Get real. Even worse would be the boning the post 1998 hires as they watch the AW crowd take every 777/787 slot 10-15 years from now.

You forgot to say all the CAs on the West are 32 years old and all the FOs are 25. If you're trying to light a fire under the AA pilots to take up the East cause, you might as well go all in.
 

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