Swa hawaii update

[slaquer5]

Flop


Just like when I was at EAL. Everyone wanted us to go on strike . They had no skin in the game easy for them to say . I was lucky and got a job right away, most did not . The 2800 dollar a month check , soon stopped for them .


Same goes here. It is easy for to tell the AT pilots what you think they should do. You do not have skin in the game. You might to do a search of what happened to Muse Air and ATA, after SWA purchased them .

Every AT pilot I have flown with is very sharp . I do not think they need someone from CAL, telling them how to choice there destiny

 

[Flopgut]

Slaquer: My audience here is as much alpa membership as it is an AirTran pilot or Hawaiian pilot. There needs to be a reminder that if another assessment opportunity comes to support a fellow alpa pilot then we all act on it. Like Lorenzo was at EAL, GK wants to play fast and loose with the rules. (Or at least Wave really wants him to next time) Scale things out from Muse thru AirTran and the trajectory favors the pilots of SWA's next acquisition.

AirTran did pretty darn good compared to Muse, right?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

ALPA wanted nothing to do with the AT group as soon as the merger was announced. They knew they were losing dues out of it and cut their losses. Never heard a peep out of ALPA national when all the threats were going on and almost the same from the local union after the threats came. Only a single unauthorized letter from the MEC chair that none of the other reps would sign. And now you think ALPA is going to do something next time? They will take your check, but there is no way they will stick their neck out for a small group. They will do as little as possible to assure they can't get sued.

 

[HowardBorden]

Said this before on here: I would have happily cut a $1000/mo ALPA assessment check to AirTran pilots if they had wanted to fight harder in their integration. Would do the same for Hawaiian (even Dan Roman). That's me, not every ALPA member.

ALPA guys: I think we need a resolution that whoever SWA tries to buy next we circle the wagons around them. Keep Gary Kelly in check and fully defend MB legislation.

Having said that, I'm wondering what a first offer Is the best offer deal out if GK would be to Hawaiian? Wave I don't think you'd like it.

Flopgut you really crack me up!

You should really pay more attention to what is going on in your own backyard. Perhaps your $1000 would be better spent developing a contingency plan to keep high value international passengers choosing IAH as opposed to Hobbie in the next couple of years.

 

[fr8doggie]

Flopgut you really crack me up!

You should really pay more attention to what is going on in your own backyard. Perhaps your $1000 would be better spent developing a contingency plan to keep high value international passengers choosing IAH as opposed to Hobbie in the next couple of years.

When does SWA start HOU-LHR service?

 

[HowardBorden]

When does SWA start HOU-LHR service?

Long after they poach Mexico, Caribbean, South and Central American passengers.

You do realize the definition of "international", correct?

in-ter-na-tion-al
ˌintərˈnaSHənl/
adjective
adjective: international
1. existing, occurring, or carried on between two or more nations.

 

[fr8doggie]

Long after they poach Mexico, Caribbean, South and Central American passengers.

You do realize the definition of "international", correct?

in-ter-na-tion-al
ˌintərˈnaSHənl/
adjective
adjective: international
1. existing, occurring, or carried on between two or more nations.

Of course I do. How's your first/business class seating for those flights south?

Don't get me wrong. I hope you guys do well in your int'l endeavors. I just don't think you'll be hauling a lot of high-end business travelers.

 

[slaquer5]

Of course I do. How's your first/business class seating for those flights south?

Don't get me wrong. I hope you guys do well in your int'l endeavors. I just don't think you'll be hauling a lot of high-end business travelers.

They would if they went back to hiring flight attendants like they did in the 70s

Also going back to the old uniform

 

[fr8doggie]

They would if they went back to hiring flight attendants like they did in the 70s



Also going back to the old uniform

Nah. I want a good single malt and a comfortable seat.

 

[waveflyer]

Seems like a real long time that I've been on here arguing with you. You're not still an FO, are you? Certainly no longer a "junior" FO, right?

Yep still an FO
And still in the bottom half

 

[slaquer5]

Nah. I want a good single malt and a comfortable seat.

So now your a high end business traveler ?

For some reason I thought you where a freight dog .


I guess it's the internet , you can be whatever you want to be.

 

[fr8doggie]

When I fly int'l it's a first class ticket courtesy of FedEx.

 

[slaquer5]

When I fly int'l it's a first class ticket courtesy of FedEx.

I do not think that makes you a high end business traveler.

So what do think us low life airline pilots are ? Mr. Business man .

 

[fr8doggie]

I do not think that makes you a high end business traveler.


So what do think us low life airline pilots are ? Mr. Business man .

I'm not a high end business traveller. I believe that most would prefer a good 1st class seat w/ good food/drink to the SWA experience w/hot F/As for a long (5 hours+) international flight.

You seem defensive. Lighten up. SWA is a good ride for leisure/family travel. I've flown on you many times both j/s and purchased ticket. Wouldn't want to do it for a long flight.

I think a lot of SWA pilots are pretty full of themselves. You're no better than the rest of us.

 

[waveflyer]

Fr8- I'm not defensive
I wouldn't want to be any taller in our seats and miss first class just for that reason-
But I've never understood that argument.
When an airplane has first class seats, the vast majority of seats are still coach with less pitch than what we have.
So most customer experiences are worse than ours on any long haul flight. Especially united. If this were a Singapore pilot levying these critiques it'd be one thing. Dude flies for the worst airline in the US for the last decade. Having a dozen or two people living it up in lay flat beds and free drinks doesn't make up for 200 in the back with less room than SWA , plus an overall sh/tty experience had by all off the plane.