Swa hawaii update

[IAHERJ]

That's funny. Just jump seated on Allegiant and as we pushed back saw 2 Alaska, 1 American, 1 United and 2 WestJet at their gates. Guess what, all 737's.

Right next to our UAL 757's/767's and 777's that make up the majority of our Hawaii flights. 737's are just fillers in the schedule.

 

[waveflyer]

Right next to our UAL 757's/767's and 777's that make up the majority of our Hawaii flights. 737's are just fillers in the schedule.

You still do them. Quite a bit actually

7 Ual flights LAX-SFO
4 use 737's

1 of 5 737 on the sfo-HNL route

2 of 3 sfo-ogg= 737
2 of 4 lax-ogg

No 737's on your 2 lax-koa flights, but 1 of 2 sfo-koa use a 73

I don't have all night, but it Seems like it's more than just filler from the west coast man

 

[IAHERJ]

Yuk. I'm disappointed in us. Good thing they are only shorter flights.

 

[waveflyer]

Well, economics intersects at some point-
Like all those small communities that wanted jets and used to have 5 turboprops a day linking them- now have little to no service
Seems like people may not like 737 service transcon or to Hawaii compared to a widebody - but it doesn't mean it won't work.

I've listened to more than one passenger bemoan why we don't have 777's going from LAX-SFO

 

[StopNTSing]

No HI until the Max shows up.

 

[Saluki Dawg]

No Hawaii until after the Alaska Merger.

 

[msmb]

Yeah, I heard we are looking to buy you guys......

 

[scoreboardII]

No HI until the JB merger.

 

[waveflyer]

I don't know which of those ideas I hate worse-
Another acquisition of a super young carrier with captains younger than me- who has routes where we want to grow-
Or the merger with Alaska that will have to be a mere combination of strong carriers

At least Alaska guys aren't so young -
Piss on both those ideas
If another is announced- the junior FOs will not be remotely so quiet as last time-Face it- senior FOs got upgrades out of air tran at THE EXPENSE of SWA junior FOs.

 

[canyonblue]

Yuk. I'm disappointed in us. Good thing they are only shorter flights.

You do understand that the passenger cabins are the same on the 75 and 73, correct?

 

[Microclimates]

More ********************ters in the 75 cabin correct? Makes all the difference on a 5 hour flight...

 

[canyonblue]

More ********************ters in the 75 cabin correct? Makes all the difference on a 5 hour flight...

More passengers in the 75 cabin correct?

 

[scoreboardII]

HI rumored announcement grows exponentially in relation to the amount the company wants a signed contract.

 

[Dan Roman]

I don't know which of those ideas I hate worse-
Another acquisition of a super young carrier with captains younger than me- who has routes where we want to grow-
Or the merger with Alaska that will have to be a mere combination of strong carriers

At least Alaska guys aren't so young -
Piss on both those ideas
If another is announced- the junior FOs will not be remotely so quiet as last time-Face it- senior FOs got upgrades out of air tran at THE EXPENSE of SWA junior FOs.

You are right there Wave, mergers benefit a few who line their pockets in the deal, but employees generally pay for it. Which is why I'm surprised you were talking up a merger with HA, we have 5 year widebody Captains you would go below as well as at least some F/O's

 

[waveflyer]

A) I don't talk it up like I want it to happen.
I don't believe that my posts on FI have any impact whatsoever on what happens. I just view us buying HAL as about a 15-20% chance of happening.
JMO.

But....No I wouldn't dan-

Why would you believe you'd get a better integration than air tran?
Isn't that showing an awful lot of the arrogance that you claim we have towards air tran?

Regardless of what they may say here (remember all the air tran posters here who WANTED SWA to buy them until it actually happened?) I wouldn't expect 1 air tran pilot to vote yes on anything that gives another airline a better integration than what they got- and frankly I don't blame them. It's just as unrealistic to think you guys won't get DOH minus 3-5 years as it was for any air tran pilot to think they'd get slotted in above Morris pilots who were stapled.
If anything you'd get the same or less than air tran.