Praetorian
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Iron fist in a velvet glove
That's the way we do it at Flight Options. I've always felt that the best thing the union ever brought us was the ability to know for sure when I was going to work in the morning. I would never want to go back.
But see, this all plays into the whipsaw game that is being played with the FO and FX pilots. You have the DO over there running around whispering in the FX pilots ears telling them, "the reason you are paid more the the FO guys is because you are more available to fly and your planes don't break as much." Now he comes out with this in his July 23 missive to the FX pilots, letting them know just how special they are:
"My request is simple. Let's bring back a level of trust we have not seen here in a while. I am asking that we abolish that list (the no call list that apparently 75% of the FX pilot group is currently on) and I promise you this: no one from the company will call you more than once while you are in rest. That call will only happen in the first two and probably the last two hours of a 10 hour minimum rest. In other words you will be guaranteed 8 hours uninterrupted rest at a minimum."
Are you f**king kidding me? You guys should be bat s**t pissed. He's telling you that he is going to be gracious enough to grant you 8 hours of uninterrupted rest and you're on here defending him?
Yea I know he claims "it's voluntary". But look at his justification for asking you to keep your phones turned on:
"I don't understand why this has become such a big issue but I truly want to understand why. It is a fact that the no-call list hurts the operation, drives more dead-head, duty hours, standby...
No doubt, silly rules and regulations have a tendency to do that. I bet every operator would love to make their operation more efficient on the backs of the pilots the way this guy is.
And wait for it, "and most of all punishes the crewmembers that are not on the list." There you go, that's how they do it. See its all about how you are letting your buddies down.
Fact is, what he's trying to do here would be explicitly illegal except for the caveat he inserts at the beginning:
"Before I begin down this path I must make one thing abundantly clear. If you so choose, no one in this company will ever assign you or make you answer your phone during rest."
Sure. Guess what guys we been through this before, it's not going to seem "voluntary" when they get done with you. Remember, "In the next several weeks we will be calling everyone on the no-call list." I wonder what they'll tell you team players.
Don't forget, because the onus is on you to let the company know you will be asking for the rest you are legally entitled to: "Again, if you feel you need the rest, call the company, tell them you are turning the phone off, pull the curtains and go to sleep."
Don't forget to call them first though. Also remember while your lazy a$$ is in bed you're letting your buddy down.
That's the way we do it at Flight Options. I've always felt that the best thing the union ever brought us was the ability to know for sure when I was going to work in the morning. I would never want to go back.
But see, this all plays into the whipsaw game that is being played with the FO and FX pilots. You have the DO over there running around whispering in the FX pilots ears telling them, "the reason you are paid more the the FO guys is because you are more available to fly and your planes don't break as much." Now he comes out with this in his July 23 missive to the FX pilots, letting them know just how special they are:
"My request is simple. Let's bring back a level of trust we have not seen here in a while. I am asking that we abolish that list (the no call list that apparently 75% of the FX pilot group is currently on) and I promise you this: no one from the company will call you more than once while you are in rest. That call will only happen in the first two and probably the last two hours of a 10 hour minimum rest. In other words you will be guaranteed 8 hours uninterrupted rest at a minimum."
Are you f**king kidding me? You guys should be bat s**t pissed. He's telling you that he is going to be gracious enough to grant you 8 hours of uninterrupted rest and you're on here defending him?
Yea I know he claims "it's voluntary". But look at his justification for asking you to keep your phones turned on:
"I don't understand why this has become such a big issue but I truly want to understand why. It is a fact that the no-call list hurts the operation, drives more dead-head, duty hours, standby...
No doubt, silly rules and regulations have a tendency to do that. I bet every operator would love to make their operation more efficient on the backs of the pilots the way this guy is.
And wait for it, "and most of all punishes the crewmembers that are not on the list." There you go, that's how they do it. See its all about how you are letting your buddies down.
Fact is, what he's trying to do here would be explicitly illegal except for the caveat he inserts at the beginning:
"Before I begin down this path I must make one thing abundantly clear. If you so choose, no one in this company will ever assign you or make you answer your phone during rest."
Sure. Guess what guys we been through this before, it's not going to seem "voluntary" when they get done with you. Remember, "In the next several weeks we will be calling everyone on the no-call list." I wonder what they'll tell you team players.
Don't forget, because the onus is on you to let the company know you will be asking for the rest you are legally entitled to: "Again, if you feel you need the rest, call the company, tell them you are turning the phone off, pull the curtains and go to sleep."
Don't forget to call them first though. Also remember while your lazy a$$ is in bed you're letting your buddy down.
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