UsAirways E190 Upgrades

[Groucho]

I may be wrong on the exact date, however your date of July 2006 is also incorrect. The July 2006 date was a re-confirmation of a previous order. If you take a look at the AWA / US Transition Agreement, dated September 20, 2005, you will see 20 A350's on the US Side of the ledger with delivery dates (TBD), to be determined. These aircraft were on the order books prior to the AWA / US merger.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Hey Grumpy, since you use the magic word (up there in bold), why don't you tell us about the Cactus Pilot badges that indicated the monetary amount contributed to a certain law firm and pilots not displaying that Cactus Pilot badge were put on "no-fly" lists by their fellow West pilots (no access to open time etc.). Remember there are usually three sides to story.

Nope, I have yet to hear anyone ask another pilot about their contribution to defending against the USAPA thugs. It's a question everyone already knows the answer to.

Now tell us about the intimidation of east pilots who rejected USAPA's original questionable card drive. Tell us about the shockingly high dues delinquency rate on the east.

Yes, you're right about the 3 sides of the story: 1st there's USAPA bragging about something they had nothing to do with, then 2 there is USAPA being caught in the lie and backpedaling, and then 3 there is USAPA blaming ALPA or the APA or the West or the court system or....

 

[Dornier 335]

Nope, I have yet to hear anyone ask another pilot about their contribution to defending against the USAPA thugs. It's a question everyone already knows the answer to.

Now tell us about the intimidation of east pilots who rejected USAPA's original questionable card drive. Tell us about the shockingly high dues delinquency rate on the east.

Yes, you're right about the 3 sides of the story: 1st there's USAPA bragging about something they had nothing to do with, then 2 there is USAPA being caught in the lie and backpedaling, and then 3 there is USAPA blaming ALPA or the APA or the West or the court system or....

Yeah Grumpy! I still remember your classy comment/statement about East pilots allowing a fake pilot ride the jumpseat! Fact check was quite different! Talk about lie and backpedaling! What is that called again?

 

[General Lee]

Yeah Grumpy! I still remember your classy comment/statement about East pilots allowing a fake pilot ride the jumpseat! Fact check was quite different! Talk about lie and backpedaling! What is that called again?

Hey, didn't the Easties agree to binding arbitration and actually approved Nicolau to oversee the whole thing? They could have actually excluded him from the beginning, but instead agreed to abide by his decision. Hmmmm. How did that work out? What a bunch of Jackholes. Don't call others liars when you can't even remember the truth yourself. But.... But... Yeah, that's right, you are wrong.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[DCAA320]

Hey, didn't the Easties agree to binding arbitration and actually approved Nicolau to oversee the whole thing? They could have actually excluded him from the beginning, but instead agreed to abide by his decision. Hmmmm. How did that work out? What a bunch of Jackholes. Don't call others liars when you can't even remember the truth yourself. But.... But... Yeah, that's right, you are wrong.

Bye Bye---Genital Lee

Well nic was suffering from dementia and Alzheimer so his conclusions were suspect. Bitch lee, for a senior guy who supposedly makes 6 figures plus, you have too much time on your hands. Yes I know, you have boy friends on the west. Good 4 u

 

[dollacrackho]

This thread was about 190 upgrades. Why don't the three or four of you rent a room and you can continue your circle jerk there. And General Lee can be the gimp.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Yeah Grumpy! I still remember

So Dork can't or won't answer the question. It was a pretty simple one. Ask McKee if you need to. Call Bradford or your hero Mike Cleary and ask him about the promises they made while you're at it.

There was an unauthorized person in the flight deck, that fact was never in dispute. The pilots control access to the flight deck. End of indefensible story.

From most of your posts, restrictions on such access appear quite lax.

 

[stickler]

It'll be nice when all you old grumpy bitches retire and we don't have to hear all about how some side screwed the other side. The 3rd listers don't give a crap and are looking to the future.

 

[dollacrackho]

Like button plus a million stickler. This sh!te is so old. Just gotta keep hiring and retiring so the the numbers of miserable grudge holding babies continues to dwindle.

 

[Bringupthebird]

The third listers are just as culpable for failing to do what they could. No BPR recalls = tacit approval. Reconciliation of east and west depends on removing those in office who ginned up USAPA and who have benefited from the disunity.

Have you benefited from the disunity? Then stop crying about suffering the valid opinions of those whose careers have been gutted by the tyranny of USAPA.

The BPR is using bogus delay tactics to keep themselves and their unfettered access to the financial feeding trough in place as long as possible. They could care less about you. Its time you woke up and acknowledged that fact.

 

[ERfly]

The third listers are just as culpable for failing to do what they could. No BPR recalls = tacit approval. Reconciliation of east and west depends on removing those in office who ginned up USAPA and who have benefited from the disunity.

Have you benefited from the disunity? Then stop crying about suffering the valid opinions of those whose careers have been gutted by the tyranny of USAPA.

The BPR is using bogus delay tactics to keep themselves and their unfettered access to the financial feeding trough in place as long as possible. They could care less about you. Its time you woke up and acknowledged that fact.

That's a first. It's now a new hire's fault that you didn't get cash your lottery ticket. My God, has the heat gotten to you? Is there something in the water? Is your Liberty Tie too tight?

 

[Bringupthebird]

The new hires are the ones with the lottery ticket. USAPA rigged the lottery however.

I just can't believe that for a few bucks the entire east would want to go through their careers ostracized and trying to explain how they were against USAPA all the time. Kinda like a 300lb. Sally Struthers telling you to feed the starving children - hypocrisy can't be hidden.

So a new generation can enjoy the only thing USAPA has left them - a legacy of salted earth. But don't shed a tear, they always had the ability to put mature adults on the BPR and chose not to.

 

[vetrider]

Like button plus a million stickler. This sh!te is so old. Just gotta keep hiring and retiring so the the numbers of miserable grudge holding babies continues to dwindle.

You guys think this stuff is old? I'm beyond grudges, I never really had any, ive been ready to get on with it for quite some time. Unfortunately usapa's father didn't pull out and the world was stuck with it. I'm ready for usapa to be dead and gone and the world moving forward.

This sad saga was unfortunate, but I just chalk it up to ******************** happens. I just want usapa dead. Soon.

 

[vetrider]

That's a first. It's now a new hire's fault that you didn't get cash your lottery ticket. My God, has the heat gotten to you? Is there something in the water? Is your Liberty Tie too tight?

Lottery ticket? Trying to keep a larger group from unilaterally deciding what's best for us is hardly trying to cash a 'lottery ticket.' Lottery ticket my butt.

 

[vetrider]

The new hires are the ones with the lottery ticket. USAPA rigged the lottery however.

I just can't believe that for a few bucks the entire east would want to go through their careers ostracized and trying to explain how they were against USAPA all the time. Kinda like a 300lb. Sally Struthers telling you to feed the starving children - hypocrisy can't be hidden.

So a new generation can enjoy the only thing USAPA has left them - a legacy of salted earth. But don't shed a tear, they always had the ability to put mature adults on the BPR and chose not to.

No one is being ostracized, that's a figment of west imagination. A few people here and there may care, a little, sort of, but the world doesn't really care.

As far as new hires go, do you seriously believe they could effect that scale of change, or any change at all, at usapa? I sure don't.

 

[LearLove]

Yeah - unions always look out for the junior guy.

 

[Bringupthebird]

You guys think this stuff is old? I'm beyond grudges, I never really had any, ive been ready to get on with it for quite some time. Unfortunately usapa's father didn't pull out and the world was stuck with it. I'm ready for usapa to be dead and gone and the world moving forward.

This sad saga was unfortunate, but I just chalk it up to ******************** happens. I just want usapa dead. Soon.

100% agree.

 

[DCAA320]

You guys think this stuff is old? I'm beyond grudges, I never really had any, ive been ready to get on with it for quite some time. Unfortunately usapa's father didn't pull out and the world was stuck with it. I'm ready for usapa to be dead and gone and the world moving forward.

This sad saga was unfortunate, but I just chalk it up to ******************** happens. I just want usapa dead. Soon.

Poor baby, go cry on a shoulder who cares.

 

[Bringupthebird]

No one is being ostracized, that's a figment of west imagination. A few people here and there may care, a little, sort of, but the world doesn't really care.

As far as new hires go, do you seriously believe they could effect that scale of change, or any change at all, at usapa? I sure don't.

When crews are mixed east and west, there will be little if any social interaction outside the minimum required conversation. How this affects safety remains to be seen.

USAPA is a gang of poser thugs who rely on intimidation to cover their deficiencies. The new hires certainly have the power to build coalitions within the east pilot group to oust the folks who have cost so many so much. To prove my point, just watch what the APA/USAPA vote tally will be.

However they join in the apathy since they have nothing to fight for. The price of this apathy will be their guilt by association with the east pilots who backed USAPA.

Please, 3rd listers, spare me your stories of how much you hated USAPA. Try to have more pride in yourselves than that.

 

[dollacrackho]

When crews are mixed east and west, there will be little if any social interaction outside the minimum required conversation. How this affects safety remains to be seen.

USAPA is a gang of poser thugs who rely on intimidation to cover their deficiencies. The new hires certainly have the power to build coalitions within the east pilot group to oust the folks who have cost so many so much. To prove my point, just watch what the APA/USAPA vote tally will be.

However they join in the apathy since they have nothing to fight for. The price of this apathy will be their guilt by association with the east pilots who backed USAPA.

Please, 3rd listers, spare me your stories of how much you hated USAPA. Try to have more pride in yourselves than that.

Wow you are a piece of work. You are one angry dude. Maybe you should be on some medication. Ive been on plenty of vans with west crews and they've been nothing but nice. So you can go on being a colossal prick to everyone but i'm guessing you'll be in the minority. What a joke, minimum conversation required . OK buddy you sit and stew in your hatred and bile and i'll read my read my magazine. What a loss it will be not to get to converse with you.