Frontier and Spirit

[c152]

Is frontier being positioned to merge with Sprit. Or are they expanding to be on there own?

 

[Shrek]

What makes the most money for the investment group would give you the answer.

 

[ApocketA's_145]

Dont see a merger anytime soon with those guys? Spirit is doing just fine on their own... A merger would be a big bump in the road for Spirit in the middle of all thier expansion plans and the amount of money they are making, there is no need to merge. They are better off competing directly agains Frontier and making them go bye bye at this point.

 

[Bolo]

Dont see a merger anytime soon with those guys? Spirit is doing just fine on their own... A merger would be a big bump in the road for Spirit in the middle of all thier expansion plans and the amount of money they are making, there is no need to merge. They are better off competing directly agains Frontier and making them go bye bye at this point.

Let me get this straight! Southwest and United could not make us go bye bye and now you think Spirirt can make us go bye bye? What planet do you live on? I agree with you about no merger looming anytime soon, but to insinuate that Spirit can bankrupt or put Frontier out of business is pretty ignorant!

 

[Dodge4SRT]

Wasn't Frontier falling and saved by a regional to bring them profitable again?

 

[Bolo]

Wasn't Frontier falling and saved by a regional to bring them profitable again?

Yes it was! Republic outbid Southwest Airlines to buy Frontier. Moving forward, Republic has nothing to do with us anymore, so what is your point?

Spirit is doing fine on their own, and Frontier seems to be doing fine on our own. Remember who got Spirit up and moving? Indigo. Who owns Frontier now? Indigo.

I have been at Frontier for 10+ years and this is truly the first time I have felt some sense of stability. We are hiring pilots, we are growing and will be opening up some new bases in the near future.

Spirit/Frontier merger not going to happen anytime soon.
Let's put this one to rest.

 

[Dodge4SRT]

Point is, you can be bankrupt and put out of business. Frontier was until you were saved and now you guys are in a good position finally.

 

[Bolo]

Point is, you can be bankrupt and put out of business. Frontier was until you were saved and now you guys are in a good position finally.

Please let me know when this happens!

 

[Dodge4SRT]

It's happening now I thought and you even said you feel some stability with the company and they are hiring. So there I let you know Frontier is doing good for themselves.

 

[flyprop]

Frontier is not going anywhere. Indigo did not purchase the airline so it could fail. This is Frankes last hoorah, so I would expect something big from him. His record speaks for itself

 

[Bolo]

It's happening now I thought and you even said you feel some stability with the company and they are hiring. So there I let you know Frontier is doing good for themselves.

Thanks again. I appreciate it.

 

[Flyby1206]

What makes the most money for the investment group would give you the answer.

Exactly. As it stands now NK has no natural competition in the market and they can go wherever they want throwing cheap fares and gaining share. At some point the NK labor groups will want a bigger piece of that profit (rightfully so) and there won't be any reason NK mgmt can't give it to them.

If F9 grows into a mirror image of NK then the two management teams can play the whipsaw game and claim the other carrier will run them out of town unless they cut costs and remain the lowest ULCC in town.

A ULCC won't remain a ULCC without a competitive force to keep them cheap. Look at the regional industry for a perfect example.

 

[snap145]

Frontier is not going anywhere. Indigo did not purchase the airline so it could fail. This is Frankes last hoorah, so I would expect something big from him. His record speaks for itself

You have waaaaaaay too much faith in Mr. Franke...He wanted the merger from day 1....BB and the board said no so he walked and took his shares with him....I'd he very very careful about putting so much faith in your booming business with Franke at the helm...

 

[StopNTSing]

You have waaaaaaay too much faith in Mr. Franke...He wanted the merger from day 1....BB and the board said no so he walked and took his shares with him....I'd he very very careful about putting so much faith in your booming business with Franke at the helm...

Yep. Ask most any former America-West pilot about what a great leader Franke was.

 

[flyprop]

You have waaaaaaay too much faith in Mr. Franke...He wanted the merger from day 1....BB and the board said no so he walked and took his shares with him....I'd he very very careful about putting so much faith in your booming business with Franke at the helm...

You are right, he shelled out the money for F9 just to down size it/shrink it and run it to the ground. I mean why else would he invest, right?

I am sure you are employee at F9 and know something rest of us don't...btw that was sarcasm.