Regional Attrition.

[wms]

Just curious about a few stats.

-What is the size of your pilot group?
-what is the attrition at your company?
-How many are they trying to hire?
-How many are starting/finishing class?

Thanks

Mods, if it's possible to delete the flame-baiters from this thread it would be appreciated.

 

[chqflyer]

RAH

Around 2100 pilots last time I looked.

Attrition appears to be 30-50/ month according to union board. Most attrition is FO's and junior captains, folks right about 2006-2010 DOH.

Company wants to hire anyone with a pulse and ATP. Literally.

Rumors/numbers vary wildly. Most new hires recently have quit before finishing ground school. 8-10 a month seem to make it online.

 

[pilotyip]

RAH

Around 2100 pilots last time I looked.

Attrition appears to be 30-50/ month according to union board. Most attrition is FO's and junior captains, folks right about 2006-2010 DOH.

Company wants to hire anyone with a pulse and ATP. Literally.

Rumors/numbers vary wildly. Most new hires recently have quit before finishing ground school. 8-10 a month seem to make it online.

All part of the growing pilot hiring boom predicted about 4 years ago

 

[Jon Rivoli]

All part of the growing pilot hiring boom predicted about 20 years ago

Fixed that for you.

 

[wrxpilot]

Just curious about a few stats.

-What is the size of your pilot group?
-what is the attrition at your company?
-How many are they trying to hire?
-How many are starting/finishing class?

Thanks

Mods, if it's possible to delete the flame-baiters from this thread it would be appreciated.

SkyWest
3285 pilots

I'm 50% up the FO side, and there are about 17-20 a month leaving that are senior to me, and probably that same amount leaving junior to me. I've actually been really surprised how many people we've had leave that are at the 1-2 year mark (I've been here over 3 years).

Not sure how many they're trying to hire, I'd estimate maybe 30-40/month, which seems to cover attrition.

Not too many people wash out here, they still seem to be fairly selective in the interview process (and the training department is very good, especially for new hires).

 

[pilotyip]

Fixed that for you.

Doesn't count, lay offs reset the hiring boom start date, so no lay offs since 2010, start a new hiring boom cycle. don't ya think?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Just curious about a few stats.

-What is the size of your pilot group?
-what is the attrition at your company?
-How many are they trying to hire?
-How many are starting/finishing class?

Thanks

Mods, if it's possible to delete the flame-baiters from this thread it would be appreciated.

CPZ ~ 525 pilots
20+ per month / 20 monthly to DAL flow - anticipating 140 total in 2014. Probably a half dozen or so left for USAir and UAL this year so far too.
Total backfill of all positions + extra for next year ~ 150ish
No show rate is very low, though there is a recent trend of a person here or there quitting in trng though, which previously was very rare.

Staffing is very very tight. JA calls and extensions are commonplace. Flow hold back for my class just pushed from 60 to 90 days.

Getting folks at the moment hasn't been too tough, but there's a lot of built in movement right now too. Once the last of the flow is cleaned up next year, it's going to be a much harder sale for the recruiters.

 

[XPOO]

SkyWest
3285 pilots

I'm 50% up the FO side, and there are about 17-20 a month leaving that are senior to me, and probably that same amount leaving junior to me. I've actually been really surprised how many people we've had leave that are at the 1-2 year mark (I've been here over 3 years).

Not sure how many they're trying to hire, I'd estimate maybe 30-40/month, which seems to cover attrition.

Not too many people wash out here, they still seem to be fairly selective in the interview process (and the training department is very good, especially for new hires).

CC said during the most recent earnings call that attrition was around 25 per month total so far this year. Not refuting your observance, CC could have been stretching the truth for all we know.

 

[wrxpilot]

CC said during the most recent earnings call that attrition was around 25 per month total so far this year. Not refuting your observance, CC could have been stretching the truth for all we know.

No problem at all. Like I said, I'm 50% on the FO side and have been moving up about 17-20 spots each month for the past several months. I haven't been paying attention to attrition below me, I just heard that we were losing a lot of 1-2 year FOs.

 

[fastback]

CC said during the most recent earnings call that attrition was around 25 per month total so far this year. Not refuting your observance, CC could have been stretching the truth for all we know.

The attrition report shows 147 left in the last 6 months, so 25 a month is real close. Half were captains, roughly.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Are off the street captains around the corner or has the 1500 hr requirement and slow movement over the past few years taken care of the gap?

 

[jynxyjericho]

Endeavor, losing about 45 a month, more CA than FOs for now but that won't continue unless SSP is fixed by August.

2 new hires for May, Guumball said pilots will kill for our SSP, but those two murderous villians are apparently the only two pilots left in the country because our class size is 30. All your new hires are belong to us.

 

[A-10_JetMech]

With attrition as bad as everyone says at 9E will it even be possible to staff the 38 200's they want to keep once it gets to the end of this year?

 

[jynxyjericho]

With attrition as bad as everyone says at 9E will it even be possible to staff the 38 200's they want to keep once it gets to the end of this year?

Not right now no. It's back of the envelope calc I did back in Feb but the make or break date is July for us. If we arent filling classes or completely stemmed attrition (zero attrition) we can't continue. Maybe if they codomocile jfk/lga, but the union has stated openly they arent interested without across the board increases in pay to something close to JCBA levels. Delta laughed us off on that.

So Delta is probably going to push some reform on our failed SSP. That costs them nothing to do. They have already stopped yelling at guys to leave if they don't like it here because they did leave. Biggest thing stopping Endeavor from flying their airplanes in the future is Delta and Endeavor management. Management is completely disconnected and refuse to listen when pilots express their concerns, so we let the free market sort it out. Been fun to watch.

 

[acaTerry]

I see...street captains on the horizon....