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The pilot shortage is already here. Airlines cut flights.

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Airlines cut flights.



U.S. News U.S. Pilot Shortfall Hits Earlier, Worse Than Expected








http://live.wsj.com/video/us-pilot-shortfall-hits-earlier-worse-than-expected/D9C6835A-A53F-4FFD-9A0C-2273BF337A7E.html#!D9C6835A-A53F-4FFD-9A0C-2273BF337A7E

They did it to themselves.

25 yrs of insanity
Pensions gone
40% pay cuts recently, but trending up

http://www.wimp.com/pilotsstamps/

Thanks Sully for getting the word out.


Are you going to let them give tempory bonuses or put it in the contracts?

Oh and remember a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

Any bets on a snap back on rest rules and timer requirements?
 
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There MAY be a shortage, but it seems most of the regionals are content to park airplanes rather than raise salaries. The mainlines still arent yet effected AND many were already planning reductions in service to enhance profits.

Dont break out the Champagne just yet :/
 
If this were true why do you need inside recommendations just to -maybe- get a interview, pretty much everywhere?
 
Hope this isn't the politics of justifying an increase of 65.

Canada is at 70 now. But, at 65 in Canada you have to go to the right seat of a narrowbody or IRO (Intl relief officer) on a Widebody. It protects upgrades, but hurts new hires.

My AME stated the latest couple in flight deaths (like the United 737 Capt that died and they diverted into BOI) have put the kabosh on it for now. High profile stuff like that hurt that cause. We'll see... I doubt it though.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Do you really want to be still flying at 70?, the only flying you should be doing is in first class with a cocktail in your hand.
Step away from the Yoke
 
Canada is at 70 now. But, at 65 in Canada you have to go to the right seat of a narrowbody or IRO (Intl relief officer) on a Widebody. It protects upgrades, but hurts new hires. My AME stated the latest couple in flight deaths (like the United 737 Capt that died and they diverted into BOI) have put the kabosh on it for now. High profile stuff like that hurt that cause. We'll see... I doubt it though.Bye Bye---General Lee

I remember my AME saying the change from 60 to 65 would never happen. AME's know about nothing about what's going on inside the FAA or Congress. It's just a personal opinion.

If you go digging around, and not on the forums, you'll see there is NO organized effort to go from 65 to 70. There are no bills in Congress. There is no FAA proposed rule making. There are no focus groups. There is no organized grassroots group like APAAD. ALPA is hard set against another change. So is the APA and SWAPA. There is nothing out there.

A few guys talking it up in the bar or on a forum does not an effort make.

A non issue.
 
reepiheep...Exactly! and if a 16k hour guy is having trouble..there is NO shortage.

I bet he is sitting at home with his cats,wondering why the phone never rings, unless it's Scheduling.....
 
The Corndog Capts will push for it, no doubt.


Bye Bye---General Lee

And you will push up on your blow up doll after stuffing your zit encrusted face with legendary volumes of Little Debbie's finest processed sugar products. Go have your mom pop those zits on your back, you will feel and look better.
 
And you will push up on your blow up doll after stuffing your zit encrusted face with legendary volumes of Little Debbie's finest processed sugar products. Go have your mom pop those zits on your back, you will feel and look better.

Classic!! Bravo!!! Fantastic!! Yesssss!


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
SkyWest, arguably the best regional, has open interviews...u just show up. Endeavor and mesa have phone interview. I have read about guys with 5 interviews set up, or 3+ class dates. The UAL and republic CEO's have both said they r cutting flights due to a pilot shortage.
 
We've come a long way from the "pay for training" era of the 90's.
 
They are cutting flights because they don't want 50 seaters. If they really wanted to keep the flights I'm pretty sure they could afford to pay an extra 40 bucks an hour for the crew, and find some bodies to fill the seats...
 
SkyWest, arguably the best regional, has open interviews...u just show up. Endeavor and mesa have phone interview. I have read about guys with 5 interviews set up, or 3+ class dates. The UAL and republic CEO's have both said they r cutting flights due to a pilot shortage.


Just can't resist...:)

By best regional you do mean best this month/week/6 month period!!!!!

The term "best" and regional should never be put in the same sentence.. I rememebr a time, 10 years ago, I heard I worked for the best regional.. (they are out of business)... A case could have been made for COEX, EAGLE, ASA....

Having 5 interviews scheduled(while great for an applicant), is not huge news.. It was the same post 9/11

UA cutting flights has less to do with their own staffing rather their desire to cut 50 seat flying. (But placing blame on 1500 hrs and pilot shortages to gain government support)

There is no way any major is having staffing issues, and if a regional is having trouble it's of their own doing.. (Plus they had plenty of time to prepare for the new rules as well as 117)
 

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