swatogether

[redflyer65]

I'm not crying foul on anything. Just don't like revisionist history.

As far as legacy guys coming out from under bankruptcy and getting millions in retirement funds...I'd be happy for them too. I don't wish ill on those guys. I think it's a good thing for each pilot group to do well.

I don't blame the pilots of any of these work groups for the crappy management decisions these guys made. And there really were some horrible decisions. If you worked at NW, DL, UAL, US or CO...what could the employees do but sit in disbelief and watch? So it was really the executives that sent them all through bankruptcy. Poorly, poorly run companies. For years.

 

[Turtle21]

No scope relief and no PBS type of scheduling. We worked hard and gave up real dollars for that language and it will be VERY expensive for them to get relief!

PBS started at the regionals and is currently at more regionals than majors, from what I hear. That alone speaks volumes... Even if not true I have never seen it benefit employees to give the company more decision making power and employees less.

 

[cl65capt]

The company hired Randy Babbitt. I think swapa should hire Steve Kolski. The other trannies will know what I'm talking about.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Pensions becoming something of the past in this profession? Squarely and completely on you.

Suppose you look at the world through other than Unical-colored glasses. "Pensions becoming something of the past" is not even an airline-specific phenomenon, let alone something Southwest created. Private businesses over the spectrum are going this way, due to lots of economy-related factors: thinner profit margins, retirees living longer, spiraling healthcare costs, changing demographics and their demand from industry/technology; you name it. Defined benefits-based retirement plans are being replaced by defined contribution-based plans the world over. Even municipalities, which historically roll over and give their unions whatever they want are going this way. Hell, even the military is trying to do this.

Blaming Southwest for this just shows your anti-anything-that-has-to-do-with-SWA bias.

Bubba

 

[PCL_128]

The company hired Randy Babbitt. I think swapa should hire Steve Kolski. The other trannies will know what I'm talking about.

Best idea I've seen in a while.

 

[nwaf16dude]

This chart is conspicuously missing from the website. Surely it is relevant.

http://www.swapa.org/Portals/0/images/charts/chart-c.png

Jesus, that is obscene! Same pic at mamma D. We pilots are just fighting for the scraps from those b@stards.

 

[Toecutter]

This chart is conspicuously missing from the website. Surely it is relevant.

http://www.swapa.org/Portals/0/images/charts/chart-c.png

...and that's the one pay scale that AirTran had that was higher than SWA.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Hey Flop....Did you see how SWA ran UniCal out of CLE!!!

 

[northstar]

How's that Philly operation going ? Lol

PHL? Really? Who gives a sh** about that rathole? We made tons of money carrying 45 Us Air lifer F/Os every day from PIT to PHL. They looked like they had the life sucked out of them from those AWESOME Europe trips.

Enjoy flying your dash 8 to Allentown

 

[Roomwithaview]

Flopout

We had to deal with you now let's see how you deal with us.

We already have-And quite well I might add.

We held the line while you guys allowed your work to be farmed out, thru bankruptcy, and 40% wage cuts. Gutting of "A" funds, SCABbing and then the ALPULL scab forgiveness.

From where I sit we did a pretty awesome job while you dudes were getting your asses handed to you-You're welcome.

Outsourcing is probably something you'll have to embrace to grow your international flying. It's a reciprocity issue. And although I really get disgusted with a lot of you, I wouldn't wish pbs on you. If you're offered a 100% pay raise you should still turn it down. It's that bad.

Oops! Forgot PBS. Thanks for the reminder. We'll see on the outsourcing. You're welcome on that one as well since we set the new std for keeping codeshare at bay.

Pensions becoming something of the past in this profession? Squarely and completely on you.

BS and you know it. Weak at best. Bankruptcy and the unsympathetic public are your biggest enemies. That and the "save the A fund" at any cost that didn't work for APA either.

We tought you all to take control over your retirement money, early and often (100% vesting). Additionally, we have the only 401k where you can invest 95% of your assets as you see fit in the market. Govt rules and regs being the only restrictions. SWA files bk, shuts the doors tomorrow, we're full vested.

Evolve or die

 

[slaquer5]

Hey Flop....Did you see how SWA ran UniCal out of CLE!!!

Flop is based in HOU. He could car less about his brothers getting kicked out of CLE.


Flop only cares about Flop .

 

[RLAblows]

Evolve or die

That's rich coming from a Southwest guy. Now get out there pull your gear pins on your 300.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Blows

Appropriate call sign.

That's rich coming from a Southwest guy.

Small price to pay for the salary and bennies.

Now get out there pull your gear pins on your 300.

Yeah, that there's a real line in the sand item. I mean, maybe we should have negotiated away the jumpseat to get that out of the FOM.

:cartman:

 

[RLAblows]

The point is obviously lost on you.

 

[Flopgut]

Hey Flop....Did you see how SWA ran UniCal out of CLE!!!

CLE might be going away, but it's not gone yet. In fact, if you were informed you would know it was primarily express flying. Which is a reduction of outsourced flying, and for a moment had me thinking you SWA guys would appreciate the reduction in outsourced flying. Is that at all the case? Or are you just acting like a-holes?