Upgrade time at JetBlue?

[chavo]

Can current new hires or senior FO's comment on the state of upgrades at JetBlue? Thanks.

 

[Blue Dude]

Junior A320 upgrade is a 4/2007 hire (~1600 out of 2600). Junior E190 upgrade is a 10/2010 hire (~1950).

 

[Flyby1206]

I think this tells an important tale:


Pilots by year of hire
1999 13
2000 99
2001 120
2002 240
2003 183
2004 179
2005 319
2006 265
2007 374
2008 81
2009 26
2010 100
2011 248
2012 94
2013 266

There was a sizeable reduction in hiring for 2008-2009 and we are just hitting those in 2010. 2011-13 is a big bunch of pilots, and the upgrade times will slow when it hits that point. For someone hired today I would expect the upgrade to E190 to climb towards 4-5 years and 7-8years for A320.

 

[LearLove]

This should be in the cargo forum.

 

[B6Driver]

You should be in a cargo container.

 

[chavo]

Thank you for the replies.

 

[johnsonrod]

Spirit would be MUCH faster in terms of left-seat advancement.

 

[tailhookah]

also only about 12 retirements/yr for the next 10 years out.... young group.

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[Flyby1206]

also only about 12 retirements/yr for the next 10 years out.... young group.

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Definitely, here are some latest numbers for those interested

JB retirements Jan2014
2014 3
2015 5
2016 11
2017 13
2018 17
2019 13
2020 27
2021 34
2022 39
2023 47
2024 72
2025 66
2026 61
2027 100
2028 111
2029 126
2030 116
2031 124
2032 138
2033 166
2034 143
2035 151
2036 119
2037 121
2038 106
2039 106
2040 84
2041 113
2042 76
2043 67
2044 63
2045 50
2046 35
2047 31
2048 18
2049 18
2050 12
2051 4
2052 0
2053 1

 

[crashtest]

Who's the one teenager retiring in 2053?

 

[$$$4nothin]

Who's the one teenager retiring in 2053?

Not sure. However if he plans correctly and gets really lucky he will retire #1 with $5 million+ in the bank.

 

[LearLove]

Who's the one teenager retiring in 2053?

Retiring in 2053 puts him/her at 25-26 years old. Not too bad. Looking at the retirement numbers by year he/she should start to get real senior by the 2030s and still have 19 to 20 years left to go assuming retirement at age 65.

I hit 65 in 2039 so on that list I wouldn't see any movement until my last 10 years at best.

 

[dollacrackho]

Except for the fact that 20 year olds in China will be flying our airplanes from their couches while playing Xbox at the same time. Can only imagine what this industry will look like in 25 years.

 

[NDPILOT]

We've been hearing that future batches of cadet pilots will have zero flight hours. They'll be qual'd in the sim, then straight to the line as relief pilots...can't wait.

 

[$$$4nothin]

We've been hearing that future batches of cadet pilots will have zero flight hours. They'll be qual'd in the sim, then straight to the line as relief pilots...can't wait.

Miracle in the Hudsun, Asiana, Colgan, etc have done a pretty good job making sure experienced and qualified pilots stay in cockpits for a long time to come.

 

[145 Lawndart]

Not sure. However if he plans correctly and gets really lucky he will retire #1 with $5 million+ in the bank.

My guess is he leaves here within the next couple years and has a long prosperous career at a real airline.

 

[Beechnut]

My guess is he leaves here within the next couple years and has a long prosperous career at a real airline.

Ha ha! That's probably closer to the truth.

 

[$$$4nothin]

My guess is he leaves here within the next couple years and has a long prosperous career at a real airline.

Also a very good possibility.