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sean67

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I was totally deflated yesterday of the news from the DOJ. So, what's next?

1. Goes to court...merger denied

2. Parties get together with divestures...slots, routes ,spliting up US east and west and they individually merge with either AMR and another carrier..etc

3. Goes to court and approved with minor changes.


After listening to Robert Crandel on Bloomsburg this morning, I was happy to hear him slam the DOJ in them approving other carrrier mergers and cutting the legs off of AMR and LCC. Airlines are not a utility, but our industry is constanly treated as such....chime in!
 
If you were totally deflated why even post and keep it going?? Funny, yet sad. Kind of like getting tit-fuked by a clown.
 
I think there is still plenty of chance for the merger to push forward, but DOJ exact large concessions.

We'll have a clearer picture by December.
 
The merger will still go through. Torrow Lane will approve the merger. This will not go to court and will be settled out of court by divesting routes from DCA. Hostilities and posturing from DOJ and Parker caused this to escallate. Parker tried to give up no slots that would cause price destabilization. Politicians in DC want to keep fares low for their minions an make a stand to show the public how they are looking out for the little guys but in reality hurt those very same low paying jobs. Morons - Holder and others have no clue about buisness and the huge impact from all the people they harm. What a cluster.

The merger will procede and tomorrow the court WILL approve the merger. The DOJ can't unillaterally stop a merger and is a misnomer. This will all be settled by year's end.
 
Not a chance! This baby is DOA!

pave driver said:
The merger will still go through. Torrow Lane will approve the merger. This will not go to court and will be settled out of court by divesting routes from DCA. Hostilities and posturing from DOJ and Parker caused this to escallate. Parker tried to give up no slots that would cause price destabilization. Politicians in DC want to keep fares low for their minions an make a stand to show the public how they are looking out for the little guys but in reality hurt those very same low paying jobs. Morons - Holder and others have no clue about buisness and the huge impact from all the people they harm. What a cluster.

The merger will procede and tomorrow the court WILL approve the merger. The DOJ can't unillaterally stop a merger and is a misnomer. This will all be settled by year's end.
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Originally Posted by WSurf
Kind of like getting tit-fuked by a clown.



whoknows said:
Has this happened to you? The analogy is lost on me.
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Yeah, WTF are you talking about?
 
It's up to this Baer dude. From what i've read from him he sounds pretty dead set against this merger and is willing to spend millions of taxpayer dollars to save john q public 25 dollars on their next vacation to disney world. They have unlimited resources to fight Doogie and at some point I think it just won't be worth it to pursue. Back to sh!t wages and the east west battle yay!!! Getting Titty fu{kied by a clown doesnt sound half bad at this point.
 
Delta and United mergers both went through

how is the USAIR American deal any different?

This merger needs to happen. I think at the end of the day it will make airline service better overall
 
doh said:
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Originally Posted by WSurf
Kind of like getting tit-fuked by a clown.





Yeah, WTF are you talking about?
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Funny and sad at the same time... Get it... Oh never mind. I forgot its a new generation pilot group these days:-)
 
pave driver said:
The merger will still go through. Torrow Lane will approve the merger. This will not go to court and will be settled out of court by divesting routes from DCA. Hostilities and posturing from DOJ and Parker caused this to escallate. Parker tried to give up no slots that would cause price destabilization. Politicians in DC want to keep fares low for their minions an make a stand to show the public how they are looking out for the little guys but in reality hurt those very same low paying jobs. Morons - Holder and others have no clue about buisness and the huge impact from all the people they harm. What a cluster.

The merger will procede and tomorrow the court WILL approve the merger. The DOJ can't unillaterally stop a merger and is a misnomer. This will all be settled by year's end.
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This goes much deeper than just DC. It's possible that the merger will still go through but far from likely. If it does it will still take 6+ months before we'll know.
 
The merger will go through. The DOJ is saving face by objecting. There is no chance in the end the merger is disallowed. After DL/NW and UA/CO they cannot tell AA/US they must compete at a disadvantage. There may be some pairing down but in my opinion the merger will no doubt go through.
 
My cynical side thinks AA/US didn't grease the palms of our corrupt politicians enough, or DAL or UA did enough to have this thing delayed or deep sized. Who knows, maybe it is designed to knock off US and let them wither on the vine.

I love hearing the comments yesterday that DOJ was concerned the consumer would be hurt. Since when do corrupt politicians care about that?!
 
Isn't this the same kind of crap that happened back when Wolf tried to merge USAir with United?
 
eaglesview said:
The merger will go through. The DOJ is saving face by objecting. There is no chance in the end the merger is disallowed. After DL/NW and UA/CO they cannot tell AA/US they must compete at a disadvantage. There may be some pairing down but in my opinion the merger will no doubt go through.
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Sure they can. The job of the DOJ is to look at things at the time they are happening. Those mergers hadn't happened when they were approved IOW there was more competition in the market.
 
When 6 state attorney generals also get involved, who know how it will turn out. There may be a compromise, but I bet the concessions will be deep and more than just DCA slots.
 
johnsonrod said:
When 6 state attorney generals also get involved, who know how it will turn out. There may be a compromise, but I bet the concessions will be deep and more than just DCA slots.
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Money rules at the end of the day. There is $11 billion behind this merger, just a matter of time to see what you'll get for that amount of $$$.
 
George Nicolau is behind the plan to kill the merger.......
 
Just because the pilots have not been integrated doesn't mean the east and west can be split up. The rest of the airline has been merged. There is no unscrambling this egg, regardless of what USAPA would like you to believe.
 

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