XJT management at the negotiation table requests.....

[hou757]

One list with us and Skywest. One set of management. There is the savings you are going to get from us!

 

[CFIT]

Has anyone ever verified the language in the Delta contract about haveing the "second lowest costs". I hear it all the time but has it been verified? And it really is a stupid way to manage a contract a contract unless your Delta. Can you imagine a contract with the pilots that said the "second highest pay", ya right! I can't believe Jerry would have agreed to such a provision!

At SkyWest we have a Director of Internal Culture, a Director of Spares, a Director of Out Station Contracts?

Find the money somewhere else!

 

[gojo]

Oh brother! And who conducted all the analysis for these charts? Who paid for that analysis?

I would be interested in seeing the yearly column chart with expiring aircraft.



Other than rigs and 12 days off, this is all status quo on the LXJT side. Solid hell no for me!



They signed it the day they bought ASA.

How long ago was that?

 

[79%N1]

The Delta contract stipulates they ALL have to have the costs of whomever is second lowest by a specified date. So, you had the bottom barrel GoJets brought in to set the bar, then they pull the Pinnacle stunt so they have a great benchmark to set for Compass, RAH, Skw and XJT. We all get set to Pinnacles rates. That's how they do business.

 

[Skaff]

Why is the Express Jet side of Inc. Losing so much money? Why is the Skywest side of Inc. keeping Inc. with a profit EVERY quarter? What is going on over there?

 

[gojo]

The Delta contract stipulates they ALL have to have the costs of whomever is second lowest by a specified date. So, you had the bottom barrel GoJets brought in to set the bar, then they pull the Pinnacle stunt so they have a great benchmark to set for Compass, RAH, Skw and XJT. We all get set to Pinnacles rates. That's how they do business.

I agree, it just shows how shrewd Delta is and how long this plan has been in the works

 

[Nevets]

Has anyone ever verified the language in the Delta contract about haveing the "second lowest costs". I hear it all the time but has it been verified? And it really is a stupid way to manage a contract a contract unless your Delta. Can you imagine a contract with the pilots that said the "second highest pay", ya right! I can't believe Jerry would have agreed to such a provision!

At SkyWest we have a Director of Internal Culture, a Director of Spares, a Director of Out Station Contracts?

Find the money somewhere else!

The Delta Connection Agreements also provide that, beginning with the fifth anniversary of the execution of the agreements (September 8, 2010), Delta has the right to require that certain contractual rates under those agreements shall not exceed the second lowest of all carriers within the Delta Connection program. During the fourth quarter of 2010, SkyWest Airlines and Atlantic Southeast reached an agreement with Delta on contractual rates satisfying the 2010 rate reset provision and the second-lowest rate provision and agreed to rates through December 31, 2015. Delta additionally waived its right to require that the contractual rates payable under the Delta Connection Agreements shall not exceed the second-lowest rates of all carriers within the Delta Connection program through December 31, 2015.

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How long ago was that?

August 2005

Why is the Express Jet side of Inc. Losing so much money? Why is the Skywest side of Inc. keeping Inc. with a profit EVERY quarter? What is going on over there?

Skywest inc management signed a deal with DAL to be second lowest cost. Same management signed a deal with UAL that isn't profitable.

 

[SpaceShipEarth]

its about as dumb as congress signing the sequestration deal

 

[SpaceShipEarth]

one thought... too big to fail Delta? either they will reevaluate the rate reset when they realize that such a large chunk of their connection flying will be unsecured or they will allow us to fail under that revenue source and hopefully we will move our eggs to the american basket. The fall out of that will be GoJets and Pinnacle absorbing that flying and good luck to them trying to fill those cockpits... anyone care to go back to 1st year pay at GoJets???? Didn't think so...

 

[Max Q]

good luck to them trying to fill those cockpits...

THAT is exactly why the "take concessions or we'll lose the flying" excuse shouldn't mean **** to anyone. That flying isn't going anywhere.

 

[Freebrd]

Just do YOUR job, no favors, no calling for crap, don't pick up open time (hard not to do but ya gotta stop it for now), do not fly unsafe airplanes, hungary go eat, FA hungary let em go eat, go inside to do No2, etc etc

 

[xkuzme1]

Our current concessionary contract states that they cannot come after our contract in bankruptcy. So shut it down or pay me.

 

[Freebrd]

Hell keep our current contracts (Asa & Exj) and just wait for a better offer. I mean just WTF does SH do? What's his pay rate, bonuses? Delta rampers/gate agents got a nice performance ck on our backs by getting out on time, etc etc. Slow down, do EVERY cklst verbatim! Which we all do anyways.....

 

[Clutch]

Just do YOUR job, no favors, no calling for crap, don't pick up open time (hard not to do but ya gotta stop it for now), do not fly unsafe airplanes, hungary go eat, FA hungary let em go eat, go inside to do No2, etc etc

Hungary?

 

[Freebrd]

Its a country in Eastern Europe but you knew that huh