Place your bets boys and girls.

[CRJ puppy]

This has Atlantic Coast Airlines written all over it.

That or Chicago Express or maybe Skyway.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

And it shows just how stupid you are. I finally got out from underneath those morons in ATL whose puppet strings were being pulled by St. George and away from all the commando sweater wearing kool-aid drinkers who were so afraid of having their bases messed with that they refused to stand up for themselves. I got out of the regional rat race.

Seriously, Jeff is so far out of touch in the day-to-day operations of the airline it isn't funny. His minions do his dirty work. He counts the days until he can collect his millions.


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Once again,
You have escaped nothing, your masters remain the same, just a layer has been removed. The problem lies with the game, with labor being aprox 40% of an airlines operating costs, and the airlines have figgered how to hit the reset button on your career. You spent the better part of 10 years at the "D" scale payscales, and now you have gone back to year one on the "new" payscale and are getting the "new c" scale pay. Watch the Robert Crandall interview and digest the contents, Bob has given you the keys to the money box, you just gotta use them. This is about money, lots of money and the game will be stacked in favor of the entity that has the most. The only, tool we have in our tool box is unity, and it appears that the airlines using the F&H plan has emasculated that single tool, via division, and everything you have seen for the last 10 years.
You are right, smallsack is removed from daily operations, that's not his job, but when he sees 200K gallons of jet a missing, that becomes his job. 1/2 million dollars missing from the cookie jar raises eyebrows, that's when he takes notice of the reverend.
That missing money was for new teak decking on his boat.

 

[sniper]

Mesa didnt care about 50 seat rates in their last contract because they are a dying breed. Why waste negotiating capital on an aircraft that nobody wants anymore..

Brian those planes will have 46 seats and your contract pays per seating

example 900s for Delta were paying 700 rates at JFK before

thank Andy and Don L from 2003

 

[dojetdriver]

This has Atlantic Coast Airlines written all over it.

Not exactly. It has Atlantic Coast Jet written all over it. A new certificate that's part of Atlantic Coast Holdings Corp that will be a work around to UAL's scope clause. That is, until scope is relaxed some more and then ALL the aircraft can be combined BACK to a single certificate. And the pilots have to go back to not as cool of a callsign, 4 digit as opposed to 3 digit flight numbers, do all those FOM and FSM updates, etc etc etc.

At which point, the ACJet certificate will be sold to Delta.

 

[trip]

I hear the Shuttle brand is going to be dusted off for another go-around, this time flown by lowest bidding regional. LAX-SBA-LAX eight times a day should pay the bills.

 

[79%N1]

I see what we're doing here. We're all cleverly adding the name of a defunct airline that ill get the planes. It's funny because the airlines don't even exist so we are being clever. Ok, I'll play. Ummmm, I think it's certain that Potomac Airlines will get these planes!

 

[Patriot328]

Not exactly. It has Atlantic Coast Jet written all over it. A new certificate that's part of Atlantic Coast Holdings Corp that will be a work around to UAL's scope clause. That is, until scope is relaxed some more and then ALL the aircraft can be combined BACK to a single certificate. And the pilots have to go back to not as cool of a callsign, 4 digit as opposed to 3 digit flight numbers, do all those FOM and FSM updates, etc etc etc.

At which point, the ACJet certificate will be sold to Delta.

Hahahha excellent breakdown!

 

[flyboyike]

Lufthansa Cityline in Star Alliance colors (see what I did there, Cityline is not defunct).

 

[rene]

Mesa already won this bid

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/brazils-embraer-inks-30-jet-223407812.html

This is old news by now. 30 E 175 's coming to Mesa. Half the company is working on certification process.

 

[rene]

Mesa already won this bid

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/brazils-embraer-inks-30-jet-223407812.html

This is old news by now. 30 E 175 's coming to Mesa. Half the company is working on certification process. ERJ simulator moving to PHX. Do the math.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Way to go "Rene" amazing what our company has done.

 

[N4niner206]

This is old news by now. 30 E 175 's coming to Mesa. Half the company is working on certification process. ERJ simulator moving to PHX. Do the math.

Rene - just curious, do you have any source for your statement that Mesa has already won this bid? Or is it your own conclusion? I'm not trying to call you out... just wondered.

 

[35off]

staffing

Doesn't matter where any planes go. If you can't staff them, they don't fly. That is real. Just ask anyone to look at how many pilots are entering classes and how many are leaving a company.

 

[N4niner206]

Doesn't matter where any planes go. If you can't staff them, they don't fly. That is real. Just ask anyone to look at how many pilots are entering classes and how many are leaving a company.

BINGO. Growth, as nice as it would be, could end up being a huge curse for anyone who gets all of these planes if they can't staff.

I wondered if this is one tiny part of the reason UAL wants to own the lease and have ultimate leverage over their operators. Having the ability to move these planes around may be a huge benefit to them. If they spread these 30 planes around and get a few carriers to set up with EMB programs, that may provide them with some backup plans and the ability to move the airplanes among carriers (similar to what Delta did with the 900s). I'd expect shorter-term agreements between UAL and the regional carriers on these planes.

 

[amcnd]

My bet is most Regionals will gravitate towards the E175 platform. Now that the cost are more in line, and most "Major" partners want them... So let the games begin.. The E175 is the new 50 seater we are all getting "SJS" over....
So no need to fight ober them. They will be at Mesa,XJT,SKY,TSA, ect...