Southwest changing it's "stance" in ATL. HMMMMMM

[Ty Webb]

That's great, honestly- but here's the problem with your . . . . obsession- it creates natural divisions. Because[ union], and [other union] in general, . . . . . - these divisions grow and the pilot/human disease of "I'll be happy when...." occurs. The pilot/human disease of "i make more $$= i am better than...i can stand a little taller around my peers." occurs. "i can look down on them" occurs?? sometimes?
You know it does.

With a few substitutions, sounds a lot like the SLI, to me. . . . :laugh:

 

[madjack]

It's all about the $$ and time off

 

[fr8doggie]

I find this whole argument ridiculous. I know that SWA is a great flying job, one of the best. What makes me laugh is all of the ...Int'l sucks, I never wanted to do anything but fly 737s in the CONUS, I've wanted to be a SWA pilot since I was 2 years old...blah, blah, blah.

Back in the mid-90's I was based in OAK. We had a pretty senior SWA guy who would jump on us a lot. Very nice guy. Was a Captain, black guy who flew BUFF's in his previous life (in case any of you knew him). He used to look at our 74's and MD-11's and sigh. He really wanted to try the long haul flying. It's nice to have the options.

I guess we'll just see how widebody, int'l flying evolves at SWA. If it ever does. It's still one of the best flying jobs around, though. With the exception of FDX, of course. The only thing wrong with FDX is we don't have 747-8's.

Regards,
fr8-

 

[HowardBorden]

What makes me laugh is all of the ...Int'l sucks, I never wanted to do anything but fly 737s in the CONUS, I've wanted to be a SWA pilot since I was 2 years old...blah, blah, blah.

Actually, I don't think international sucks at all. Some of the destinations people talk about sound really nice. The problem for me personally lies in the back side of the clock flying. I flew small plane freight for years, all on the back side of the clock. It really was extremely difficult for me to adjust to it. Actually I never adjusted to it. I was a zombie for 3 years straight and it was unhealthy for me. I know that some folks adjust easily and can go back and forth between nocturnal and the more traditional front side of the clock wake sleep cycles, I'm just not one of them. Of course this was all single pilot operations and domestic flying as well. I understand that it would be an easier experience with a relief crew, but it would also add multiple time zones to the equation and that is hard enough for me to deal with already. I'm already dreading redeye flying arriving at SWA. I will avoid it all costs if my seniority will allow it since I am simply not well suited to that type of operation. So, in answer to your statement: "I never wanted to do anything but fly 737s in the CONUS." It doesn't have to be 737's or CONUS, it just so happens that those two are much more conducive to me remaining on the front side of the clock at work which makes me a much happier and safer pilot.

 

[General Lee]

It's all about the $$ and time off

So says the guy with ONLY domestic flying choices. (Non long haul). Hey, if I'm going to go to the airport, I want to go somewhere I want to go. Maybe you don't feel that way, and if so, that's sad. I enjoy bidding to go places fun, interesting, and somewhere I consider a vacation. It pays well at the same time btw....


Bye Bye----General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

maybe you don't feel that way, and if so, that's sad.

Bye bye----general lee

????????



rf

 

[tankerhead]

I hear Sonny and Cher singing through a clock radio.

At least that old movie "Groundhog Day" was funny and ended well. This is just sad and stupid and neverending.

 

[Dash Power]

And, someone like Dash who flew INTL for 9 months at some legacy can't really describe it accurately, primarily because being junior on INTL can be a lot different than being senior.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Oh yeah. I never got a good feel for it. I never flew with senior guys. I never had long overnights. I was never on the backside of the clock. It takes the experience the GL has to be superior in making those types of judgements. I just don't have the experience after 26 years and five airlines to EVER make such a difficult decision about what International flying is like.

I really think you get off being who you are on this forum. What a waste of life. I think I am now pro choice.

 

[General Lee]

Oh yeah. I never got a good feel for it. I never flew with senior guys. I never had long overnights. I was never on the backside of the clock. It takes the experience the GL has to be superior in making those types of judgements. I just don't have the experience after 26 years and five airlines to EVER make such a difficult decision about what International flying is like.

I really think you get off being who you are on this forum. What a waste of life. I think I am now pro choice.

Easy Dash, don't get too upset. Look, you weren't there long enough, end of story. You may have flown some trips, but not the good ones, or you wouldn't have left.

I have flown multiple leg days on a narrowbody though, and I really didn't like that. Way too hard-- more than 3 legs in one day is too tough... When I do bid Capt on what I want (737 first or 320 maybe, then bigger), I will make sure I can hold one or two leg days with long legs. Soooo much easier. But, ill be ready to bid widebody long haul as soon as I can, and with some years having 800 senior guys leaving, it might not be that long.... Ahhhh, that will be really nice....

Also, easy on the personal attacks. This thread has morphed into an analysis on domestic and INTL long haul flying. A FedEx guy and several DL Capts have joined in. Some airlines and air cargo companies have both types, and some do not. That part isn't debatable. "Choice" is never a bad thing. Good day.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

Haha.

You can even feel the arrogance oozing out from underneath Double Breast Blazer. Just makes you look even more neurotic.

Keep talking Gen, it only gets better.