ALPA on Emirates and Etihad

[Full of LUV]

Every friend of mine working for Emirates loves it and never plans to come back ---

Many of my friends in 2000 LOVED UAL and never planned on leaving for another airline either...... just saying.

 

[Andy]

5th freedom JFK-Milan operated by Emirates will be widely successful (if approved)

Not likely. Emirates is stepping into the middle of a p1ssing contest between US and Italian authorities. Besides, as I stated previously, JFK-MXP doesn't meet the criteria to grant 5th Freedom rights.

http://www.eckertseamans.com/file/pdf/alerts/AviationAlertMarch2013.pdf

DOT CRACKS DOWN ON DISCRIMINATORY ITALIAN AIRPORT FEES
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For some time, airport authorities in Italy have charged carriers that operate flights within the European Union one set of fees and carriers that operate flights to and from points outside the European Union a different, higher, set of fees. On March 15, 2013, DOT issued a tentative finding that this method of imposing user charges “constitute an unjustifiable or unreasonable discriminatory, predatory, or anticompetitive practice against U.S. air carriers and impose an unjustifiable or unreasonable restriction on access of U.S. air carriers to the Italy market; violate Article 12 of the U.S.-EU Air Transport Agreement; and warrant remedial action under the International Air Transportation Fair Competitive Practices Act (IATFCPA).” DOT Order 2013-3-1.

Because DOT has found the Italian system of airport user charges violates the U.S.-EU Air Transport Agreement, it has determined the appropriate response is to impose operational restrictions on Alitalia - Compagnia Aerea Italiana S.p.A. (Alitalia) in an attempt to bring about the elimination of the differentiated fee system in Italy. Should the Department finalize its tentative findings, it intends to preclude Alitalia from engaging in “any or all services (on-line, interline or codeshare) between any point or points in Italy, via any intermediate point in the EU, and any point or points in the United States.”

Interested parties have seven days to respond. All responses should be filed with the Department in Docket DOT-OST-2013-0038 or by mail to: Docket Operations, M-30, West Building Ground Floor,Room W12-140, 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE, Washington, DC, 20590.​

 

[General Lee]

Ohhhhh snap! Don't tell 8Sugarsugar that Andy! Sorry, the Sandpit is just that. I talked to an Emirates 777 Capt in DUS that left DL just after 9-11 and the furloughs that followed. He actually quit DL, and he regretted it. He said the job was stressful and he was tired of DXB. It's definitely not for everyone.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Varmint]

Many of my friends in 2000 LOVED UAL and never planned on leaving for another airline either...... just saying.

Most pilots would never have considered working at Southwest until 2003 when the downturn hit the other majors.

 

[Varmint]

Not likely. Emirates is stepping into the middle of a p1ssing contest between US and Italian authorities. Besides, as I stated previously, JFK-MXP doesn't meet the criteria to grant 5th Freedom rights.

http://www.eckertseamans.com/file/pdf/alerts/AviationAlertMarch2013.pdf

There is a reason why we are both just pilots and not in upper management making routing decisions at a major international carrier. What you think or stated earlier has no bearing on an application that the airline has already made. Maybe the EK planners will decide they were wrong because Andy on flightinfo said so.

 

[Andy]

There is a reason why we are both just pilots and not in upper management making routing decisions at a major international carrier. What you think or stated earlier has no bearing on an application that the airline has already made. Maybe the EK planners will decide they were wrong because Andy on flightinfo said so.

Maybe the US DOT will grant 5th Freedom Rights to EK. Question (and this is relevent): When was the last time the US granted 5th Freedom Rights?
I'd ask the followup; which foreign carriers have 5th Freedom Rights in the US (there are a few), but the first question should quell your belief that EK planners are infallible. The second question would merely confirm that EK has no 5th Freedom Rights in the US.

And now that you're living in that part of the world, remember that Andy doesn't matter. Everything's 'allah wills it'. allah willed it that you'd be flying out of a sh1thole in the desert, not that you'd fly in the US.

 

[sniper]

I enjoyed this part of ALPAs blurb -

"Furthermore, the U.A.E. airlines do not need to adhere to labor relations rules comparable to those that govern our domestic carriers"

I'd rather work for Emirates than any of the sweatshop regional carriers, and some of the big carriers that ALPA represents.

Then give us your name so we can remove your application from the Legacy airlines.

 

[sniper]

Most pilots would never have considered working at Southwest until 2003 when the downturn hit the other majors.

Did SWA turned you down after you bought your type on the 737?

 

[Varmint]

Did SWA turned you down after you bought your type on the 737?

You have an A320 type....does that mean that you bought it?

 

[Varmint]

Maybe the US DOT will grant 5th Freedom Rights to EK. Question (and this is relevent): When was the last time the US granted 5th Freedom Rights?
I'd ask the followup; which foreign carriers have 5th Freedom Rights in the US (there are a few), but the first question should quell your belief that EK planners are infallible. The second question would merely confirm that EK has no 5th Freedom Rights in the US.

And now that you're living in that part of the world, remember that Andy doesn't matter. Everything's 'allah wills it'. allah willed it that you'd be flying out of a sh1thole in the desert, not that you'd fly in the US.

Your questions are not worth entertaining because you are a bigot.

I fly in the US all the time. At least here, I don't have to fly with people like you.