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USAir jumpseat - "are you listed?"

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Multiple times when trying to jumpseat on Airways i have been asked by the gate agent if i am listed. Today when i responded "no" she just shook her head and asked to help the person in line behind me. I stepped aside and waited patiently of course but this has me wondering if there is some way for other airlines to list on usair jumpsets prior to the gate? Our official alpa jumpseat info says list at gate. Thanks.
 
Gate agents are stupid and lazy. I get asked that every time I go on united. I tell them all that you CAN'T list if you are offline, none seem to believe me.

It is NOT possible. Pisses me off when gate agents are too lazy to do their job.
 
800-325-9999; opt 3, opt 1, opt 1. They'll list you on the phone then the gate agent will have to fix it, but at least you've done your part.
 
wms said:
800-325-9999; opt 3, opt 1, opt 1. They'll list you on the phone then the gate agent will have to fix it, but at least you've done your part.
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It's actually more work for the agent if you list on the phone. The listing will be for a ZED fare, and they will have in to cancel it out and re-list you.
 
In defense of the Gate Agents...many times you get the people of the persuasion that just " can't understand normal thinking".

Unfortunately, we have laws in this country that force employers to hire people that can't necessarily do their jobs efficiently, but they look real good as a checkmark on an E.E.O.C. form.

I voted early today to try and correct that...


Whine
 
PapaSiera said:
It's actually more work for the agent if you list on the phone. The listing will be for a ZED fare, and they will have in to cancel it out and re-list you.
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That's what I mean by the gate agent having to fix it. Yet I still get an attitude if I don't list ahead of time.
 
Whine Lover said:
In defense of the Gate Agents...many times you get the people of the persuasion that just " can't understand normal thinking".

Unfortunately, we have laws in this country that force employers to hire people that can't necessarily do their jobs efficiently, but they look real good as a checkmark on an E.E.O.C. form.

I voted early today to try and correct that...


Whine
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What a load of crap.
 
I got the same thing in AVL a few weeks ago from the USAirways ticket counter who tried to get me to go call and list and come back.

I politely explained to her that as an offline passenger I had no way of listing in advance for the jumpseat. She didn't believe me, so I asked her to give me the number to call and list and asked for her to explain to me how to get past the automated system that asks me for my USAirways employee number, which I don't have since I work for another airline.

She just gave me a blank look. I pulled out my phone and offered to put it on speakerphone while she showed me how it could be done. She just gave me a dirty look and listed me for the flight, which then canceled for Mx anyway.

I don't think it's a problem of whether or not someone is an EEOC candidate, but rather, that people in general are fat, lazy, and stupid. And as we all know, "You can't fix stupid." I just try to be friendly, professional, and internally thankful that I don't have to be around that person for more than a few minutes to get on the plane.

And FTR, I believe the EEOC should be abolished in safety-sensitive positions. You hire the best person for the job, regardless of age, race, gender, or religion. If that yields you a majority of a certain one of those demographics, that's just the way it goes.
 
eaglesview said:
What a load of crap.
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Yes. Steamed and piled and submitted for YOUR approval....The "Eagles" of the World, with the "Eaglesview".

( Cue music: " Hail to the Chief " ...Da-dah-da-dah-da----dumpty-dumpty-dumb...)

:)

Soar My Friend...SOAR.


Signed,

Whine Nation, Under God, Infinitesimal, with Giggity, and Nut-Fuss For All.


P.S. - In true F.I. Spirit ---- I need to update my Flight Time to reflect that I have MORE than 13000 hours now, AND I am considering a bigger more wildly expensive Watch, AND my airline made huge profits last year, AND unequivocally stated, once again, for the Record and all Eternity...MESA SUCKS. So, I win. Again.
 
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Unfortunately, we have laws in this country that force employers to hire people that can't necessarily do their jobs efficiently, but they look real good as a checkmark on an E.E.O.C. form.
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I thought it had to do with "you get what you pay for".
 
Whine Lover said:
In defense of the Gate Agents...many times you get the people of the persuasion that just " can't understand normal thinking".

Unfortunately, we have laws in this country that force employers to hire people that can't necessarily do their jobs efficiently, but they look real good as a checkmark on an E.E.O.C. form.

I voted early today to try and correct that...


Whine
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So you think minorities are dumb, huh? Or women?

Classy.
 
Depends on the station. In CLT and LGA they appear to prefer that you don't list. I asked a CLT agent and said that even if I did list via the phone they'd still have to change it. For some reason all of the smaller stations I've js'd out of, they prefer you to list via the phone. ROA and RIC are like that. Basically I've decided when I'm flying out of a station I'm not familiar with, it's easier to list and work backwards.
 
Whine Lover said:
Yes. Steamed and piled and submitted for YOUR approval....The "Eagles" of the World, with the "Eaglesview".

( Cue music: " Hail to the Chief " ...Da-dah-da-dah-da----dumpty-dumpty-dumb...)

:)

Soar My Friend...SOAR.


Signed,

Whine Nation, Under God, Infinitesimal, with Giggity, and Nut-Fuss For All.


P.S. - In true F.I. Spirit ---- I need to update my Flight Time to reflect that I have MORE than 13000 hours now, AND I am considering a bigger more wildly expensive Watch, AND my airline made huge profits last year, AND unequivocally stated, once again, for the Record and all Eternity...MESA SUCKS. So, I win. Again.
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How's the mustache coming? Up to union standards?
 
TNPILOT said:
..For some reason all of the smaller stations I've js'd out of, they prefer you to list via the phone. ROA and RIC are like that
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In my previous life, it was my experience that smaller stations, with smaller planes and typically one or two folks doing everything...gate, boarding, paperwork, etc,...want a head-count and bag-count sooner rather than later, hence the "desire" to at least have you in the system.
 
Sorry you've been having trouble with us. You'll hear the same thing from American agents if you ask for the jumpseat, except it's not just at certain stations -- it's everywhere. They used to make you call their non-rev number and list, but you had to do it between the hours of 9:34am and 7:56pm, except on Sundays when the window was about three minutes. At least now you can list online with them, if you can figure out the website and have a spare 20 minutes to click through the thousand questions. But even if you DO list in advance, the American agent will ALWAYS, repeat ALWAYS, ask if you've "MEAL listed," as if you know just what the heck she is talking about. She'll roll her eyes when you seem befuddled, and then spend the next seven minutes typing on her keyboard.

Offline commuting is such fun!
 
All you guys and gals need to just jumpseat on SWA. We are no hassle, just walk up to customer service at the gate you are leaving from. get your jumpseat approved via CASS and have your passport. YOU must have your passport to jumpseat on SWA, and most ops agents perfer you come on before general boarding starts. That way you can put your bags away meet the capt if there is a seat available you can take it.
 
GIZMONC said:
All you guys and gals need to just jumpseat on SWA. We are no hassle, just walk up to customer service at the gate you are leaving from. get your jumpseat approved via CASS and have your passport. YOU must have your passport to jumpseat on SWA, and most ops agents perfer you come on before general boarding starts. That way you can put your bags away meet the capt if there is a seat available you can take it.
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Been a while, but last time I jumpseated on SWA, after being in the phone queue while transiting from the other side of DEN, they made me continue on hold to list - even though I was standing at the gate with no one else waiting.
 
I've taken to checking the gate area for jumpseaters at problem stations. It's amazing how gate agents can magically do the "impossible" when they know you're going to wait for them to do their friggin' job.
 
KarmaPolice said:
united is by far the easiest. Just fill out this paper and VVVWALA!!
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If you're on an Express carrier. If you're on mainline, the agent has to use WebJump which can be a pain in the a$$. The old United system was great. About 10 keystrokes, 5 seconds and viola, OMC Card.
 
I'm not sure what this is about since I have many off line jumps who never ever said anything about getting a hard time at the gate with getting a pass. When Mr. or Ms. Delta, American, United, American Eagle and the rest pilot checks in with me in the cockpit they even have a ticket with a seat assignment. If it's full they are always welcome in the cockpit. I'm going to have a stiff drink and go watch the movie "Flight".
 
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I can't believe nobody has answered this question yet. The nonrev listing number for USAir is 800-325-9999. I always list.
spciii
 
Whine Lover said:
In defense of the Gate Agents...many times you get the people of the persuasion that just " can't understand normal thinking".

Unfortunately, we have laws in this country that force employers to hire people that can't necessarily do their jobs efficiently, but they look real good as a checkmark on an E.E.O.C. form.

I voted early today to try and correct that...


Whine
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sadly more affirmative action programs have been signed into law under republican presidents than democratic ones... don't kid your self, there is very little left of the "Conservative" mentality left in the "R" party.

it's all talk to get your vote and then cut taxes for the top 1%.
 

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