JetBlue control problem over Vegas yesterday?

[coogebeachhotel]

I heard some chatter about "dual hydraulic failure"
What was that all about?

 

[justgrieveit]

If it was a "dual" failure as reported then that is a major emergency
and land ASAP is the only option, overweight or not, lose the last Hyd system
and you are lawn dart. I find it hard to believe they would fly around for four hours with one Hyd system, something fishy about this story.

 

[justgrieveit]

Just saw some video, looks like a E190, I am assuming they have a mechanical back-up system, unlike the Airbus.

 

[trip]

"Skipper look"
Analysis?
"It looks like a small incandescent bulb, designed to indicate something out of the ordinary, like a malfunction"
"I find it pretty and somewhat hypnotic"
"Right, that too sir!"

"Rico- manual"
Ah ha,, smash- there Problemo solved!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSlXHkReTD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m23Eyc3Xm-Q

 

[n757st]

Just saw some video, looks like a E190, I am assuming they have a mechanical back-up system, unlike the Airbus.

No 190s in Vegas.

 

[imacdog]

http://gma.yahoo.com/jetblue-flight...las-vegas-093432508--abc-news-topstories.html

 

[nwa_contrails]

http://avherald.com/h?article=45165c68&opt=0

 

[5w5flyer]

Just saw some video, looks like a E190, I am assuming they have a mechanical back-up system, unlike the Airbus.

No mechanical backups on the 190. It has three separate hydraulic systems and when all of those go you have engine thrust and electric pitch trim.

 

[igneousy2]

"The Aviation Herald however learned on Jun 20th that the green hydraulic system had been lost followed by an overheat indication of the yellow hydraulic system prompting the crew to report the failure of two hydraulic systems. The crew actioned the relevant checklists and were able to recover the yellow hydraulic system."

Sounds like they did a good job.

 

[Little_Bill]

Somebody's been watching too much Madagascar.

 

[Limeyflyer]

Good Job Crew!

 

[XR650R]

Gotta love the 737 and it's manual reversion. It ain't fun but it works in a pinch. I'd hate to have the feeling that I was just along for the ride.

 

[ALGFLYR]

I'd hate to have the feeling that I was just along for the ride.

Then you have never flown an Airbus... LOL...

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

CNN labels it a "flight from hell!"......

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/bestoftv/2012/06/20/exp-nr-jetblue-vomit-flight-seg.cnn

What a joke! It sounds to me like a good outcome and they still try to smear it. Great job Jb crew!!! I would love to ask the idiots at CNN what more they could have done.

I heard they went into holding because Southwest wanted opposite direction takeoffs!!!

 

[vixin]

Actually its becasue we threw one hell of a pizza party for the tower. Man those guys can eat when they are at work.

 

[Golden Falcon]

Dual hydraulic failure in itself is doable been there done it, must have been other issues

 

[airplane wizard]

Just engine thrust left after a dual hyd failure? Why did they stay in the air so long if it was that serious? The Alaska MD-80 crew/pax might be alive today had they landed asap.

 

[Raskal]

Just engine thrust left after a dual hyd failure? Why did they stay in the air so long if it was that serious? The Alaska MD-80 crew/pax might be alive today had they landed asap.

Kind of wondering that myself...really that concerned about an overweight landing with 2 hyd systems on the fritz?

 

[airplane wizard]

Kind of wondering that myself...really that concerned about an overweight landing with 2 hyd systems on the fritz?

Maybe being overweight plus no brakes or flaps/spoilers is why they need to be as light as possible. But with a serious control issue I would think it would be best to get on the ground right away as long as the plane was stable.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

The bus has 3 hyd systems, and you do have rudder, elevator, ailerons, flaps & slats on blue system. You do not have reverse, brakes or nose wheel steering on blue alone.

Reports indicated a loss of green followed by a yellow overheat, then a recovery of yellow. A single failure does not give a LAND ASAP ECAM message, a dual failure does.

A dual failure without reverse and brakes would be sporty to land at LAS on a high density altitude day. EDIT: You would have the accumulator pressure for some brakes, but not normal or alternate brakes, and no anti skid.

Good job to the crew! I've had a single hyd failure in the bus which was a non event. This could have turned out bad if they had rushed it.