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By Neale Gulley | Reuters – May 18,2012

BUFFALO, New York (Reuters) - An airline pilot was arrested Friday morning at Buffalo Niagara International Airport after security screeners discovered a loaded revolver in his baggage.

Brett Dieter, 52, of Barbersville, Virginia, arrived at the upstate New York airport Friday to pilot a flight to New York City's LaGuardia International Airport for Piedmont Airlines, a passenger airline that subcontracts under U.S. Airways.

While at a security checkpoint, a scan of Dieter's bag revealed a .357 magnum revolver loaded with five rounds. It was not immediately clear if the pistol was in his carry-on luggage.

Federal prosecutors in Buffalo allege he began traveling with the weapon when he reported for work on May 16 on a flight from Charlottesville, Virginia, to LaGuardia, but skipped a security screening of his baggage.

"The defendant did not submit this bag to X-ray screening at the Charlottesville airport," the federal indictment states.

Deiter, and the gun, traveled on "several other flights" over a two-day period, prosecutors allege.

He is charged with unlawfully possessing a concealed firearm, a charge punishable by 10 years in jail and a $250,000 fine.

U.S. Attorney William Hochul, whose office in Buffalo is handling the case, said Dieter shouldn't have been allowed to carry the gun, although sometimes, exceptions are made for law enforcement officials.

"In this day and age, we simply can't afford to have anyone ignore these important regulations," he said in a statement issued following the arrest.
Dieter is due in court next week to answer the charge.

U.S. airline pilots who receive special training may carry guns in the cockpit but are not allowed to have them elsewhere in the plane or in airport terminals. The program began some 10 years ago following the September 11, 2001 aircraft hijacking attacks.
 
While this guy may or may not have gone though a KCM checkpoint, it is one more doubt cast upon pilots' ability to act responsibly when they're not getting their bags x-rayed. If someone does this at a KCM checkpoint it will hurt us all.
 
The way it's worded it appears to be an FFDO. "U.S. airline pilots who receive special training may carry guns in the cockpit but are not allowed to have them elsewhere"
 
CHO doesn't screen working PDT crews. Its a crew base, they walk in behind the ticket counter. Totally legit.
 
Good. You ********************ing gun nuts. In what world did he think it was OK to leave a loaded .357 in his suit case?
 
"Good. You ********************ing gun nuts. In what world did he think it was OK to leave a loaded .357 in his suit case?"

Well, he was going to LaGuardia......
 
"Good. You ********************ing gun nuts. In what world did he think it was OK to leave a loaded .357 in his suit case?"

Well, he was going to LaGuardia......

Dude. I was eating cereal and wound up wearing it after I read that. Well done!
 
How do you "nab" someone?

I always associated "nabbing" with an unmarked van driving up and the door flying open as a couple of hooded guys grab someone then speed away.
 
The way it's worded it appears to be an FFDO. "U.S. airline pilots who receive special training may carry guns in the cockpit but are not allowed to have them elsewhere"

The ffdo gun is a 375 magnum?

Gee and I thought I was a rebel. I mean sometimes I leave my blazer at home before May 1st or after Oct. 1st. And occasionally I'll take my tie off and yes I'll admit it actually walk into the terminal. I'm on the edge I think I need help. It's a slippery slope, first the tie then before you know it I'll be trying to lug a flamethrower past security.
 
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Good thing they "nabbed" him before he got control of an airplane.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...magnum-bag-arrested-buffalo-article-1.1081067

Apparently he is not a FFDO. Which pretty much makes him the dumbest SOB to embarrass the profession in the last, what 45 days? Is this some sort of competition? The Jet Blue pilot had a medical condition, so you got to top that by displaying clear lack of judgement and respect for the law? There must be easier ways to get away from your wife than 10 years in Federal prison. Good luck Brett. Can't wait to hear your explanation.
 
A) This is a not extremely uncommon situation, for non-FFDO's to inadvertently leave a personal firearm in personal luggage (like for a car trip), that later is used as work luggage.

B) This is a relatively common situation for it to happen when it is a general passenger. Even more so with just spare loose ammunition. When it is not an intentional act, it is rarely prosecuted.

C) No one has ever been fired for this in the USA, I am told.

D) I am told no one has been successfully terminated for a single instance like this.

E) Was it a massively gross oversight? Undoubtedly. Let he who is without fault cast the first stone. I doubt very much that a single person who owns a personal firearm has NEVER violated one of the over 30,000 firearms laws nationwide.
 
I am a gun owner and I have never violated a gun law. Morons leave their firearms in luggage and try and act like it is no big deal. I always know where every one of my guns are and if they are loaded. BTW....my wife and kids can tell you the same info. It is called being a responsible gun owner!!!
 
I am a gun owner and I have never violated a gun law.

I find that VERY hard to believe. I guess that could possibly depend on where you live and if your weapon ever leaves the safe.

But, it's like saying you've never, ever, broken a traffic law - even unintentionally. Though I'm sure you're a responsible driver too.
 
Phew imagine what he could have done with that .357! He could have like...hijacked the plane! Or even killed someone! OMGGGGGG
 
I find that VERY hard to believe. I guess that could possibly depend on where you live and if your weapon ever leaves the safe.

But, it's like saying you've never, ever, broken a traffic law - even unintentionally. Though I'm sure you're a responsible driver too.

Never violated a gun law...break pleanty of traffic laws!!!
 
I suppose it's best in these situations to wait for the facts. I keep thinking it must have been planted by someone else. If the gun was empty or the ammo packed separately, I could see him pulling the oops card. Loaded just isn't good. Two days unaccounted for. Was the bag always in his possession? I sometimes leave mine in the cabin? Unfortunately I think we as pilots fall in to the "know better" category, and that this guy won't get a pass if he is guilty.
 
Phew imagine what he could have done with that .357! He could have like...hijacked the plane! Or even killed someone! OMGGGGGG

You wouldn't be thinking that if the Nut Job at JetBlue would've had a .357 on him.

I've found many of the people that are FFDO Pilots about half probably shouldn't even be carrying gun!!!
 
You wouldn't be thinking that if the Nut Job at JetBlue would've had a .357 on him.

I've found many of the people that are FFDO Pilots about half probably shouldn't even be carrying gun!!!

Sure I would. I'm not very worried about bullet holes in the fuselage, and if that Capt's goal was to hurt someone he would have just crashed the plane without acting all wierd first. Or took the hatchet to his FO. A gun is the least of my concerns.
 
It was an obvious accident, no need to clog the system with needless paperwork and prosecution. If anything, it points to a system error.
 
Accident?????? Not knowing where your Loaded .357 is??? Bad Judgement...... Accident hell no! I own a gun and I know were it is 24/7!!
 

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