eeek...just heard GoJets is getting 6 more 700s with Delta.

[BillJBrake]

I'm not sure where the flying is going, but who can say they're surprised? It seems like the next move on the squeeze play by DALmainline to push ASA/(XJT) out of the way and slide a cheaper operator in.

I wonder how much more this will change in the next year or two...could they get any of the SKW flying out of SLC?

Sadly, cheap plane gets the bid these days, and GoJets seems to have no issue underbidding any potential competition.

 

[777forever]

I'm not sure where the flying is going, but who can say they're surprised? It seems like the next move on the squeeze play by DALmainline to push ASA/(XJT) out of the way and slide a cheaper operator in.

I wonder how much more this will change in the next year or two...could they get any of the SKW flying out of SLC?

Sadly, cheap plane gets the bid these days, and GoJets seems to have no issue underbidding any potential competition.

Well there is no room left under the Delta scope clause for 700s, rest of SKW and ASA's 700s under contract for years, and no spare 700s on the market, unless they are getting some of Comair's 700s.....

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[spudskier]

from where!? proof

 

[The Drizzle]

Let's hope not, they have a dismal record in LGA so far.

 

[jws717]

When did go-jet start the Delta flying, I just saw one in LGA and was like what! holy cow?

 

[Abernathy]

I'm not sure where the flying is going, but who can say they're surprised? It seems like the next move on the squeeze play by DALmainline to push ASA/(XJT) out of the way and slide a cheaper operator in.

I wonder how much more this will change in the next year or two...could they get any of the SKW flying out of SLC?

Sadly, cheap plane gets the bid these days, and GoJets seems to have no issue underbidding any potential competition.

Mind telling us where you heard this?

 

[JumpersAway]

Let's hope not, they have a dismal record in LGA so far.

Good! Hope it continues!

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Good! Hope it continues!

Count on it!

 

[The Drizzle]

Good! Hope it continues!

It's made commuting super difficult for about half of our commuters :/

 

[Flyer1015]

Why? Are your captains denying GoJet pilots?

 

[The Drizzle]

Why? Are your captains denying GoJet pilots?

No, because they fly to a lot of cities we have commuters living in and the cancel all the f'n time.

 

[petitepilot]

What about Gojets bidding for Eagle flying? Anybody heard that?

 

[Russ]

777
Where do you get your info about no spare 700's? As of just a few months ago the finishing line had a number of white tail 700's due to cancellations from buyers. Saw them myself, no second hand report.

 

[777forever]

777
Where do you get your info about no spare 700's? As of just a few months ago the finishing line had a number of white tail 700's due to cancellations from buyers. Saw them myself, no second hand report.

Well I guess there are spares now due to cancellations. I forget where nut I remember reading about a backlog of orders one the CR7 line

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[CRJ puppy]

Well I guess there are spares now due to cancellations. I forget where nut I remember reading about a backlog of orders one the CR7 line

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With the possible exception of maybe two airframes (which I'm too lazy to look up at this moment) DCI is at the scope limitation for 700's. So unless these airframes are coming from a current 700 operator (which other than GoJet are: Comair, Skywest and ExpressJet), then this is a bogus rumor.

 

[Kaman]

I wouldn't be shocked to see some of PNCL Corp 900s heading in that direction after the 1st of the year...They are on the way out as it is...This regional shuffleboard game is great if you are the guy with the stick directing the puck...Not so great for the rest of us...Not sure if that thing is called a "puck". So, I wanted to put in a disclaimer.

 

[777forever]

I wouldn't be shocked to see some of PNCL Corp 900s heading in that direction after the 1st of the year...They are on the way out as it is...This regional shuffleboard game is great if you are the guy with the stick directing the puck...Not so great for the rest of us...Not sure if that thing is called a "puck". So, I wanted to put in a disclaimer.

IMO, GoJet only stands a chance in bids if a mainline carrier owns the planes and just needs crew and maintenance. Since Bombardier owns the planes after PNCL returns them I highly doubt GoJet can get the financing deal Skywest Inc can get.

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[dooork]

I wouldn't be shocked to see some of PNCL Corp 900s heading in that direction after the 1st of the year...They are on the way out as it is...This regional shuffleboard game is great if you are the guy with the stick directing the puck...Not so great for the rest of us...Not sure if that thing is called a "puck". So, I wanted to put in a disclaimer.

This is where I would give US Airways some credit,they have never realy done too much of this.

 

[jetflier]

The DALPA TA will be presented later this week....my guess is that Momma Delta wants more big RJ"s.....
The big question is,...will DAL pilots vote for more scope ?

 

[General Lee]

The DALPA TA will be presented later this week....my guess is that Momma Delta wants more big RJ"s.....
The big question is,...will DAL pilots vote for more scope ?

Do you mean more or additional 76 seaters? I can see the company wanting to ask for them, but I would think (and have heard) that it could be tied into some ratio form, with a major reduction in 50 seaters (that were likely going away anyway due to economics) in exchange for additional 76 seaters. Supposedly Delta is on the "hook" for 50 seat leases for a few more years, and they are of course not money makers. So, the rub would be we will increase the "ratio" of mainline flying compared to current levels in favor of mainline, and the RJ manufacturers will decrease the lease payments on those remaining 50 seaters in exchange for a limited number of new 76 seaters. If this doesn't happen, Delta could still park the 50 seaters if very uneconomical, but the leases would still have to be paid.

So, is it better to bring down the TOTAL number of RJs (ratio of flying increases towards mainline) while giving Delta the ability to add let's say 40 more 76 seaters (could be more, I don't know the numbers), or would it be better to keep the money losing 50 seaters and have more RJs in total? I personally would like mainline to fly any additional 76 seaters, but I don't know the economics and I don't know if that was offered or not. (I would think it would be)

I'll have to wait to see the TA to make a decision, but I would right now like to see the total number of RJs decrease in a big way, and I am not willing to vote YES on anything with larger RJs (more than 76 seats) for DCI.



Bye Bye---General Lee