I don't think the company is actually considering getting rid of premium pay. They are saying the things they are saying to manage expectations and make us THINK that we are getting such a great deal right now.
For those pilots that had listened to the last several RM conference calls, 80% of the time spent discussing the pay review was spent telling us why would probably not get the pay increase... Yet we got it. This is managements way of making us fear not getting our piddly raise, so that when we get our piddly little raise, we are relieved and not demanding more. It is expectations management 101. Same with this talk about putting a value on our premium pay.
Here is the important part, and something our PVC and more vocal pilot callers need to HAMMER home during conference calls and PVC-management meetings... OUR PREMIUM PAY SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY ALMOST THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER MAJOR AIRLINE! Most major airline pilots get a 70-80 hour line, and then during the busy months, pick up open time that is automatically paid at 150-200%. In fact, many guys bid a min credit line of 70 hours, and then start getting premium pay from opentime from 70 hours, instead of our 78 hour trigger....
During slow months at other airlines, there is no open time, just the same as we have low bid devisors and no opentime during slow months.
Hell, even my last regional airline had 150% for all opentime pickups.... Guys made a killing if they wanted to fly hard....
PVC and vocal pilots, make the legitimate case that our premium pay system is no more costly or valuable than that other of our peers, just implimented slightly differently!!!!
As for adding Spirit and Virgin America to our peer set... Sure, as soon as JetBlue can start offering 3 year upgrades again... Until then, it is apples and oranges...
Yes this post is a repeat, but I want a FOCUSSED discussion about this issue alone, and not all the she-said-she-said from the blue tampon types.
Smarta$$
For those pilots that had listened to the last several RM conference calls, 80% of the time spent discussing the pay review was spent telling us why would probably not get the pay increase... Yet we got it. This is managements way of making us fear not getting our piddly raise, so that when we get our piddly little raise, we are relieved and not demanding more. It is expectations management 101. Same with this talk about putting a value on our premium pay.
Here is the important part, and something our PVC and more vocal pilot callers need to HAMMER home during conference calls and PVC-management meetings... OUR PREMIUM PAY SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY ALMOST THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER MAJOR AIRLINE! Most major airline pilots get a 70-80 hour line, and then during the busy months, pick up open time that is automatically paid at 150-200%. In fact, many guys bid a min credit line of 70 hours, and then start getting premium pay from opentime from 70 hours, instead of our 78 hour trigger....
During slow months at other airlines, there is no open time, just the same as we have low bid devisors and no opentime during slow months.
Hell, even my last regional airline had 150% for all opentime pickups.... Guys made a killing if they wanted to fly hard....
PVC and vocal pilots, make the legitimate case that our premium pay system is no more costly or valuable than that other of our peers, just implimented slightly differently!!!!
As for adding Spirit and Virgin America to our peer set... Sure, as soon as JetBlue can start offering 3 year upgrades again... Until then, it is apples and oranges...
Yes this post is a repeat, but I want a FOCUSSED discussion about this issue alone, and not all the she-said-she-said from the blue tampon types.
Smarta$$
