airplane wizard
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Not now!! Co pilots can pay for them with their profit sharing that so far is coming out of my wallet. Not that I'm bitter.
Uh, not that we don't have our own issues with how our MEC chairman singlehandedly gave up serious leverage (our anger on 2/14) and a 767 grievance for a little cash, but how exactly is our profit sharing coming out of your wallet? The pool is a set amount based on the total number of employees whether they participate or not. Our cut had we not recieved it would have just added more to the $1.5 billion or so we've given the company over the last 7 years, not been distributed to the other employees.
Funny all of a sudden Jay Pierce has a schedule conflict and can't make the Council 12 (ORD) union meeting. Something smells funny.
What I think is funny is how UALALPA filed an injunction in federal court trying to halt the SOC without sharing their plans to do this with CALALPA. At the joint MEC meeting a short time later, a member of the CAL MEC point blank asked if the UAL folks will share their strategy going forward. The answer was "no". A very short time later, the infamous 108 page letter to congress was sent. Jay Pierce found out from the reporter who called him to ask for his response. Let's be clear about who exactly has been forging down the road with their own agenda with all due respect.
With that being said, let's not take the disagreements the two MEC's might have out to the line. I've been very impressed with the UAL pilots I've had the pleasure of meeting out in the system. I look forward to getting all this behind us.
What I think is funny is how UALALPA filed an injunction in federal court trying to halt the SOC without sharing their plans to do this with CALALPA. At the joint MEC meeting a short time later, a member of the CAL MEC point blank asked if the UAL folks will share their strategy going forward. The answer was "no". A very short time later, the infamous 108 page letter to congress was sent. Jay Pierce found out from the reporter who called him to ask for his response. Let's be clear about who exactly has been forging down the road with their own agenda with all due respect.
With that being said, let's not take the disagreements the two MEC's might have out to the line. I've been very impressed with the UAL pilots I've had the pleasure of meeting out in the system. I look forward to getting all this behind us.
Funny all of a sudden Jay Pierce has a schedule conflict and can't make the Council 12 (ORD) union meeting. Something smells funny.
Not now!! Co pilots can pay for them with their profit sharing that so far is coming out of my wallet. Not that I'm bitter.
What I think is funny is how UALALPA filed an injunction in federal court trying to halt the SOC without sharing their plans to do this with CALALPA. At the joint MEC meeting a short time later, a member of the CAL MEC point blank asked if the UAL folks will share their strategy going forward. The answer was "no". A very short time later, the infamous 108 page letter to congress was sent. Jay Pierce found out from the reporter who called him to ask for his response. Let's be clear about who exactly has been forging down the road with their own agenda with all due respect.
With that being said, let's not take the disagreements the two MEC's might have out to the line. I've been very impressed with the UAL pilots I've had the pleasure of meeting out in the system. I look forward to getting all this behind us.
Wow first it doesn't come out of your pocket but wow you really think it is fair that of the 80000 employees of the New United only the CO pilots shouldn't get profit sharing?? Really your bitter about that? I guess we had nothing to do with the profit glad to see your pulling with us and not management. Wow amazed.
What I think is funny is how UALALPA filed an injunction in federal court trying to halt the SOC without sharing their plans to do this with CALALPA. At the joint MEC meeting a short time later, a member of the CAL MEC point blank asked if the UAL folks will share their strategy going forward. The answer was "no". A very short time later, the infamous 108 page letter to congress was sent. Jay Pierce found out from the reporter who called him to ask for his response. Let's be clear about who exactly has been forging down the road with their own agenda with all due respect.
With that being said, let's not take the disagreements the two MEC's might have out to the line. I've been very impressed with the UAL pilots I've had the pleasure of meeting out in the system. I look forward to getting all this behind us.
You don't get it. UALALPA wanted the COALPA to include them in other issues like the sunset of the T&PA but Jay chose to go ahead and just take the money and leave us to fend for ourselves. If you don't think this has caused a rif come on into one of our ops and talk about it.
As far as being on Managemnt side again you are wrong. A devided pilot group is what they want. The CO side just walked blindly into it.
I love when a statement starts out you just dont get it, surely keeps my mind open. The TPA mostly protected the UAL pilots for shortcomings in their contract and I support what it is but to say that the grievance that was going to gain nothing would have some how carried you guys along was simply in my opinion not true. There is no way to win this discussion for either side because it is an opinion and one that we wont ever know another outcome so I will not be dragged in to a fight about that. I have friends at Delta and Airways and I know whos merger I would rather mirror so I really am not going to argue points here on a forum with nothing but opinions.
I get in to your crew room in IAD often and I have never been treated with any thing but respect and I have never seen a UAL pilot in EWR treated differently. Were in this together whether we like it or not and there are going to be a lot of issues that neither side agrees with from our own or the other sides union. Taking it out on each other in crew rooms wouldn't solve that. Good luck sorry this made you mad but this is one of many issues well go through and I do get it, which is why I wont talk about it further.
Ant managements desire to have emplyee groups not be united is not opinion. That is airline ops 101. CO pilots took a benefit with no regard to the guys that you say they are in this together with, again not an opinion.