B6 PEA Amendment

[Smarta$$]

The 180s may stay or go but farming out flying with alter ego (your PVC attorneys' opinion, in IAD last month, of true company intentions in the documents) will delay junior FO upgrades for years and years. Stagnation comes with alter ego flying, it is the nature of it, as in, find cheaper pilots.

Yes, possible farming out of cape air or small turbo props in SJU. They will NOT farm out CRJs or EMBs or any other regional jet. To do so would be the fastest way to ALPA or another union. They do not want that.

The company is on the record numerous times stating the intention of the language is no more than 50 seats. 50 seaters are not profitable, and are not having their contracts renewed by most airlines.

Stick to arguing for better retirement, insurance, pay and merger protection. For this outsourcing and furloughs BS, take off the tin foil hat.

 

[fifty30retard]

Yes, possible farming out of cape air or small turbo props in SJU. They will NOT farm out CRJs or EMBs or any other regional jet. To do so would be the fastest way to ALPA or another union. They do not want that.

The company is on the record numerous times stating the intention of the language is no more than 50 seats. 50 seaters are not profitable, and are not having their contracts renewed by most airlines.

Stick to arguing for better retirement, insurance, pay and merger protection. For this outsourcing and furloughs BS, take off the tin foil hat.

Thanks for your guidance, you most definitely must be absolutely correct. I'm almost positive your 180 upgrade is safe and secure. Now, I'm going to go buy my guaranteed winning lottery ticket, then walk on water, while spinning gold from yarn.

 

[Smarta$$]

Thanks for your guidance, you most definitely must be absolutely correct. I'm almost positive your 180 upgrade is safe and secure. Now, I'm going to go buy my guaranteed winning lottery ticket, then walk on water, while spinning gold from yarn.

That's funny.

 

[$$$4nothin]

How about the fact that B6 built its customer loyalty by offering a product that is better than any product that any regional has or ever will be able to provide. B6 will not outsource to a regional jet operator for this reason alone. It wouldnt matter how cheap that carrier is because JB would not want to destroy there customer loyaty. It would take less than 3 months in the NY and BOS markets to destroy what has been built over 13 years. Just go look at the Midwest/Frontier brands. Forget every other reason. That is the only necesarry reason for B6 not to outsource to a regional carrier.

 

[$$$4nothin]

If you don't understand this concept you obviously have never worked for or commuted on a regional carrier. JB management knows this. They have probably flown on every regional carriers multiple times trying to see if there is one out there that could actually give the kind of product JB offers. Luckily for all of us there is not one out there that does, nor will there ever be one. JB management knows what outsourceing to a regional carrier would do to there business and profits.

 

[Splert]

How about the fact that B6 built its customer loyalty by offering a product that is better than any product that any regional has or ever will be able to provide. B6 will not outsource to a regional jet operator for this reason alone. It wouldnt matter how cheap that carrier is because JB would not want to destroy there customer loyaty. It would take less than 3 months in the NY and BOS markets to destroy what has been built over 13 years. Just go look at the Midwest/Frontier brands. Forget every other reason. That is the only necesarry reason for B6 not to outsource to a regional carrier.

That is pathetically tragic which means it is one step away from painfully funny.

The product is free TV and Snacks. Look at the JD Powers Award.

Every time a customer touches a Jetblue crew member we score like USAirways.

When a customer touches something free or the free TV or free snacks we score like Alaska Airlines.

We could score even higher if we gave more stuff away for free and financed it by flying the 190 at 1/4 the crew cost and win another 10 pound piece of glass.

Get off the 190 now!

 

[Smarta$$]

That is pathetically tragic which means it is one step away from painfully funny.

The product is free TV and Snacks. Look at the JD Powers Award.

Every time a customer touches a Jetblue crew member we score like USAirways.

When a customer touches something free or the free TV or free snacks we score like Alaska Airlines.

We could score even higher if we gave more stuff away for free and financed it by flying the 190 at 1/4 the crew cost and win another 10 pound piece of glass.

Get off the 190 now!

Why????

 

[$$$4nothin]

That is pathetically tragic which means it is one step away from painfully funny.

The product is free TV and Snacks. Look at the JD Powers Award.

Every time a customer touches a Jetblue crew member we score like USAirways.

When a customer touches something free or the free TV or free snacks we score like Alaska Airlines.

We could score even higher if we gave more stuff away for free and financed it by flying the 190 at 1/4 the crew cost and win another 10 pound piece of glass.

Get off the 190 now!

Both of these statements are incorrect... Do you think that if the 190 flying got farmed out the company would just furlough all the 190 pilots. This is such a rediculous statement. If you think the company just wants to do things the cheapest way possible ie.. farm out flying then why would they furlough the lowest paid employees (for the most part). If you think they would furlough that grossly out of seniority why wouldn't they furlough all the 9-13 year pilots and keep all the 1-5 year pilots. Look how much the company loves that 10 pound piece of glass. The company knows very well that they would never see it again if they farmed out flying to any regional carrier. The fact is there are 5 internet tough guys on this board, but there are many thousand JB employees that do whatever they can to make a customers experience as good as possible. I would also be willing to bet these 5 internet tough guys are still very nice to customers and help them all out in as many ways as they can.

 

[Splert]

Both of these statements are incorrect... Do you think that if the 190 flying got farmed out the company would just furlough all the 190 pilots. This is such a rediculous statement. If you think the company just wants to do things the cheapest way possible ie.. farm out flying then why would they furlough the lowest paid employees (for the most part). If you think they would furlough that grossly out of seniority why wouldn't they furlough all the 9-13 year pilots and keep all the 1-5 year pilots. Look how much the company loves that 10 pound piece of glass. The company knows very well that they would never see it again if they farmed out flying to any regional carrier. The fact is there are 5 internet tough guys on this board, but there are many thousand JB employees that do whatever they can to make a customers experience as good as possible. I would also be willing to bet these 5 internet tough guys are still very nice to customers and help them all out in as many ways as they can.

When the 180 goes the pilots go with it.

Your PEA will cover you up until the moment you are integrated into the other pilot groups CBA.

As far as JD Powers click on the categories and what is being scored and then count the balls. We fail when our customers interact with a jetblue crew members and score highly when we give our customers free stuff.

Any vendor can give free LiveTV and full cans of soda away and all you can eat blue chips.

That free 10 pounds of glass costs a lot money.

Good luck.

 

[$$$4nothin]

When the 180 goes the pilots go with it.


Good luck.

So you are saying the 10 year 190 captain will be furloughed and the 2 month airbus FO will stay. How do you possibly think this. What is your thought process. Is it that JB doesn't want to pay training cost. If that was the case then why does the company allow a 5 year Bus FO to bid a 190 FO slot in the most recent system bid allowing an extra training event. Also why do you think the 190 is going away. Do you think the Bus is going to fly around all day to SYR, PWM, ALB, BTV with 85 people in it 5 times a day. Not to mention the 70 mile SJU-STT flights. There is a reason the company is still bringing them on property. Our JD power award came from a lot more than free TV and blue chips. Yes people love those things, and they are great products that JB offers. I also see that we complete almost 100% of our scheduled flights almost everyday. JB customer expect that. Tell me what regional can provide that kind of garunteed service. I know for a fact my old 145/170/175/190 flying regional carrier couldn't even come close. Big difference in attitude from employes that care about there company and employes that could care less if the company with the paint job on the side of there plane does well or not.