NetJets To Picket

[hunkerdown]

[FONT=&quot]NJASAP will host an informational picketing event Monday, Dec. 12, 2011, from 1130L to 1330L at the NetJets Easton Office Building, 4449 Easton Way, Columbus, Ohio.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]All NJASAP members who will be in Columbus are strongly encouraged to participate in the event, which is intended to draw public attention to NetJets’s unilateral decision to implement sweeping changes to the 401(k) Retirement Plan in contravention to the 2007 Amended Agreement. NJASAP will be joined by the mechanics, flight attendants and dispatchers represented by Local 284. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A pre-picket briefing will begin promptly at 1130L in the northwest corner of the Aladdin Shrine Center parking lot, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]3850 Stelzer Rd., Columbus, Ohio 43219. Transportation to the picket site will be provided at the conclusion of the briefing. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Full dress uniform is required[/FONT][FONT=&quot] and winter weather gear is highly encouraged (i.e., gloves, lip balm, tissues). A boxed lunch will be provided at the event’s conclusion.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]From Picket Captain Jim Brady …[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]NJASAP anticipates a strong turnout for this event and is pleased we will be joined by our Union brethren represented by Local 284. As employees, we must stand together to send a clear message to this management team that the pilots, dispatchers, flight attendants, and mechanics are united. We are NetJets. Please contact [/FONT][FONT=&quot]me[/FONT][FONT=&quot] or the [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Picket Facilitation Team[/FONT][FONT=&quot] with any questions. More information is also available on the NJASAP Web site.[/FONT]

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For pilots attending Recurrent Training [/FONT][FONT=&quot]A pilot in training retains the right to engage in the activity of his or her choosing during a scheduled lunch break or during a period of time in which he or she has been released from duty. Those who choose to participate in the picket should exit the retail side of NetJets’s Easton location and walk toward the meeting site, which is along the west side of the building, to retrieve a picket sign. Full dress uniform is required to participate. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]


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[FONT=&quot]For pilots who live in the DET area [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Picket Captain Jim Brady plans to drive a 12-passenger van to the picketing event. Although he will be leaving DET on Dec. 11, any member is free to ride with him to Columbus; members will be responsible for their own accommodations and meals. [/FONT]

 

[CA1900]

Excellent. Wish I could be there!

 

[BentOver]

Can I picket the $100K+ in retirement I'll be losing by being furloughed without a significant job replacement? That's "if" the furlough lasts 5 years.... It'll grow to nearly $200K as the years beyond 5 go by....

All the while, management plays cat and mouse with the business necessary to facilitate recalls. In the end it's playing cat and mouse with my career expectations.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Um....

Never mind.

 

[dime line]

Shoot FLOPS still has no 401k matching!

 

[NachoMamma]

Can I picket the $100K+ in retirement I'll be losing by being furloughed without a significant job replacement? That's "if" the furlough lasts 5 years.... It'll grow to nearly $200K as the years beyond 5 go by....

Get over it. Time to move on.

 

[993_Pilot]

Are you welcoming / encouraging other outside pilot groups to join you?

 

[Jack Campbell]

How about having some signs that say that when pilots voluntarily extend for themselves they could be involuntarily extending the furlough for me and almost 500 Netjets pilots?!

 

[T-1GUY]

Can I picket the $100K+ in retirement I'll be losing by being furloughed without a significant job replacement? That's "if" the furlough lasts 5 years.... It'll grow to nearly $200K as the years beyond 5 go by....

All the while, management plays cat and mouse with the business necessary to facilitate recalls. In the end it's playing cat and mouse with my career expectations.

I would hope you would of moved on by then.... Don't waste your time waiting for Netjets. There are tons of jobs out there. What are you waiting for??? You can either be the mouse or the cat in your career. I choose to be the cat...

 

[BentOver]

Get over it. Time to move on.

Sorry, I'll continue to bitch and moan until the day you resign. Lemme know when that is and I can stop whining...:beer:

 

[BentOver]

I would hope you would of moved on by then.... Don't waste your time waiting for Netjets. There are tons of jobs out there. What are you waiting for??? You can either be the mouse or the cat in your career. I choose to be the cat...

Not wasting time, have a good job (not a great job) playing the waiting game for something to open up that I'm after.... Not gonna settle for any job. It has to be where I want it, for the right $$ and the right timing. I call the shots when it comes to future jobs.


If you had any clue how much effort and planning went into where I'm at now you would definitely be calling me the cat.

But yes, am dissapointed that my retirement planning has been severely put on hold for the moment. getting a match like NJA is tough to come by. Forget JetBlue or most of the legacies.

 

[T-1GUY]

Glad to hear it... Go kick some a$$ and take names...

 

[OPECJet]

Forget the NJA match unless you go back if recalled. They'll be taking their 40-60% back when you don't.

 

[T-1GUY]

How long would you have to go back for to get the match..

 

[fischman]

ANYHOO...

We're picketing.

 

[OPECJet]

How long would you have to go back for to get the match..

2 or 3 years for me. Some more, some less.

 

[glasspilot]

What's the 401K match now and what do they want to take it to?

 

[gutshotdraw]

What's the 401K match now and what do they want to take it to?

They match 50% of whatever you contribute including the "catch up" contributions from the older folks. For example, you put in $15,000 and they put in $7,500.

They are not changing the contribution formula. They are switching the plan administrator. Accounts vary as to whether the contract required explicit permission from the union to do so or the company only needed to provide ample notification (I only report, you decide). Nobody is sure what the advantages or disadvantages of the new plan are.

But the picket is actually in support of mechanics, dispatchers and flight attendants attached to the Teamsters 284.

 

[CA1900]

They are not changing the contribution formula. They are switching the plan administrator. Accounts vary as to whether the contract required explicit permission from the union to do so or the company only needed to provide ample notification...

The only ones who are having trouble "interpreting" this are the ones in management. The contract is crystal clear that it cannot be a unilateral change, and they've blatantly ignored that.

Here's the wording in the agreement:

The Company and the Union may change the Plan during the term of this Agreement by mutual consent, but no change will result in lesser benefits than those in existence at the time this Agreement is made.

There has not been mutual consent, nor has enough information been provided to us to even reach that consent. They're simply breaking the contract they signed with us.

 

[gutshotdraw]

The only ones who are having trouble "interpreting" this are the ones in management. The contract is crystal clear that it cannot be a unilateral change, and they've blatantly ignored that.


There has not been mutual consent, nor has enough information been provided to us to even reach that consent. They're simply breaking the contract they signed with us.

Not saying I disagree with you. But there seems to be some question as to whether the issue was run past the previous union retirement committee chair and there were no flags raised at the time. Looks like the company wants the NMB or a judge to decide. In confusion, there is profit...