Republic Airways to Strike!!!!

[Grey Ghost]

http://www.wthr.com/video?&clipId=6411366&autostart=true

 

[Grey Ghost]

It seems like nobody cares???? WTF? Ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

 

[F9 Driver]

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[OPECJet]

It seems like nobody cares???? WTF? Ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

Should be in the regional section.

 

[Bolo]

It seems like nobody cares???? WTF? Ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

I think you are right one this one!

 

[StarChecker]

Should be in the regional section.

So should everything regarding JetBlue.

 

[USMC319]

How about instead of a strike, they just go away!

 

[WSurf]

Wow! I am surprised by the responses! Good luck to all the Republic Pilots! I know a few that work there... Pay is terrible along with the contract!!! A bunch of room for improvement! Good Luck....

 

[airplane wizard]

Funny how they show the old Republic Airlines Convair in the intro.

 

[Grey Ghost]

Wow! I am surprised by the responses! QUOTE]


I'm not surprised! You will notice it is the same five guys that get all bent out of shape when you make fun of FAPAInvest! :bawling:

 

[BentOver]

Pay is terrible along with the contract!!! A bunch of room for improvement! Good Luck....

They should have thought of that before they voted in their contract. Instead they were just thinking about how they could undercut Comair and win some flying.....

 

[WSurf]

They should have thought of that before they voted in their contract. Instead they were just thinking about how they could undercut Comair and win some flying.....

We can battle over history all day. Comair was a low paying PFT airline 11 years ago. Or did you not realize that?

 

[HalinTexas]

We can battle over history all day. Comair was a low paying PFT airline 11 years ago. Or did you not realize that?

I think they're the last regional airline to strike, too. About 10 years ago. Look where that got them.

 

[WSurf]

I think they're the last regional airline to strike, too. About 10 years ago. Look where that got them.

So what you're saying is stay low pay and undercut all the others to keep flying or Strike get a new contract and eventually get burned down the road. Yep, thats usually what happens so welcome to the regional airline business model! But Republic needs to get a better contract. They are flying mainline type aircraft at below most regionals pay. If they strike and shut it down, so what! They can feel good knowing that a hiring boom is right around the corner.

 

[Grey Ghost]

So what you're saying is stay low pay and undercut all the others to keep flying or Strike get a new contract and eventually get burned down the road. Yep, thats usually what happens so welcome to the regional airline business model! But Republic needs to get a better contract. They are flying mainline type aircraft at below most regionals pay. If they strike and shut it down, so what! They can feel good knowing that a hiring boom is right around the corner.

Amen, Brother!!! I don't think it will come to an actual strike, though. Comair, only flew for Delta if I'm not mistaken? Republic flies for way too many airlines to have everything shut down.

 

[atr42flyer]

They should have thought of that before they voted in their contract. Instead they were just thinking about how they could undercut Comair and win some flying.....

for real man?

The contract we have now was voted for in 2003. This current contract was not a concessionary contract like everyone else was taking in the industry at that time. We did not undercut anyone.

While the doom and gloom that bedford preached and everyone else in the industry bought into and took concessions we did NOT!

so move on with your stupid idiot rantings and go flame someone else.

 

[F9 Driver]

Amen, Brother!!! I don't think it will come to an actual strike, though. Comair, only flew for Delta if I'm not mistaken? Republic flies for way too many airlines to have everything shut down.

You're making a great case for the mediator to ice 357 for a few more years before eventual impasse, release, and a PEB being impaneled. Your footprint across the Legacies combined with the percentage of DCA traffic you represent will get you a PEB. Not a strike.

It's a shame that your leadership has botched this so badly. You guys NEED a better contract. Thanks for forcing this horrible representation upon us BTW. Can't wait to get out from under Hoffa's boot!

This may give some insight into the process:

http://www.ipapilot.org/media/rla.asp


What happens during the cooling off period?
During the 30-day cooling off period the NMB will normally call the parties back to the table for further discussions. While these talks can be called at any time during the 30-day time frame they are generally called at or near the end of the countdown period. These meetings are often referred to as "super mediation."

What if no agreement is reached during the 30-day cooling off period?
If no agreement is reached by the end of the 30-day cooling off period, the parties are free to exercise "self-help." This means that the carrier is free to impose its last offer, temporarily cease operations or engage in other self-help activity (e.g., hiring permanent replacements). The union is free to strike or engage in other self-help activity.

What is a “Presidential Emergency Board?”
During the 30-day cooling off period, the NMB makes a determination regarding the impact of a strike. Pursuant to Section 160 of the RLA, the NMB "notifies" the President that in its "judgment" the dispute between a carrier and its employees cannot be adjusted and "threaten substantially to interrupt interstate commerce to a degree such as to deprive any section of the country of essential transportation service.” Once the President receives such notification, he may, "in his discretion, create a board to investigate and report on such dispute.” The NMB submits a recommended list of potential neutrals to the President. The PEB usually has 30-days to develop a proposed agreement and present that agreement to the parties for consideration. After the PEB delivers its proposed agreement, there is a further 30-day cooling off period.

What happens if either party rejects the PEB's proposed agreement?
If either party rejects the PEB's proposal, the parties may, after the second 30-day cooling off period, engage in self-help.

Is there any circumstance in which the parties are constrained from engaging in self-help after rejecting a PEB's proposal?
Yes. It is possible for Congress to intervene and legislatively mandate a settlement. If this is done, Congress most typically would simply take the recommendations of the PEB and write them into law. This would mean that a contract would be legislated by Congress and no strike or no membership ratification would be allowed.*****

 

[Grey Ghost]

It's a shame that your leadership has botched this so badly. You guys NEED a better contract. Thanks for forcing this horrible representation upon us BTW. Can't wait to get out from under Hoffa's boot!

Should we have let the great leaders of FAPA try and throw us under the bus like they did in their great SLI Proposal???

 

[F9 Driver]

Should we have let the great leaders of FAPA try and throw us under the bus like they did in their great SLI Proposal???

Maybe do something smart, like your flight attendants are doing, and have a joint council representing both groups. You had to know that F9 pilots wouldn't react kindly to having our representation stripped from us against our will.

Maybe we could have worked together to get you a better contract... but now it's just fun to watch from the sidelines. Your avitar should have a Republic FO in the seat.

 

[Grey Ghost]

Maybe we could have worked together to get you a better contract... but now it's just fun to watch from the sidelines. QUOTE]


You're exactly right, we should have worked together. The fact remains that the almighty FAPA leadership that you guys always brag about also screwed up the Southwest deal prior to the current mess we have on our hands! They should really get over themselves and stop screwing up everything they touch!!!uke:

 

[F9 Driver]

The fact remains that the almighty FAPA leadership that you guys always brag about also screwed up the Southwest deal prior to the current mess we have on our hands! They should really get over themselves and stop screwing up everything they touch!!!uke:

You have no idea what you're talking about. You may want to get your own house in order before commenting on ours.

But on a lighter note... maybe fouling up BB's debt offering and making noise about striking right now wasn't the best thought out plan by the almighty 357 leadership:

http://www.centreforaviation.com/bl...structuring-plan-for-the-entire-company-61957


As with SkyWest and Pinnacle, some of its CPA rates have become uneconomic and, during the SkyWest call, executives agreed with the Mr Bedford’s evaluation of the aircraft. He specifically targeted the ERJ 145s, also operated by American Eagle and on the way out of its fleet as well. He indicated that once Frontier’s problems were squared away, the company would turn to RJET stakeholders to reduce costs just as it did with Frontier.

It is trying to indefinitely defer its Embraer E-Jet deliveries and is set to take two new, 99-seat ERJ 190s in Dec-2011. It also wants to sell 10 ERJ 190s already in operation. Mr Bedford estimates that selling the 10 aircraft could yield USD40 million in cash. The 2010 order for six ERJ 190s were set for delivery this year. Mr Bedford told employees that devoting its limited cash to new aircraft is “impossible.”

As if its Frontier troubles were not enough, they were compounded yesterday by noise from its International Brotherhood of Teamster pilots for its CPA subsidiaries about striking. About 2,300 members are set to vote on a strike with the conclusion of voting set for 22-Nov-2011. The union covers pilots at Republic Airways Holding subsidiaries Republic Airways, Chautauqua and Shuttle America which do capacity purchase work for US Airways, United, Continental, Frontier, American and Delta.
It is doubtful a strike is imminent since action by the National Mediation Board (NMB) is necessary to declare an impasse in union/management negotiations, impose a cooling-off period which must happen before the NMB releases the union to strike.
In addition to a raise, picketers say they want improvements in working conditions, flight scheduling and seniority as well as receiving payments for layovers, according to the Indianapolis Star, the company’s hometown newspaper.

 

[Grey Ghost]

You have no idea what you're talking about. You may want to get your own house in order before commenting on ours.

But on a lighter note... maybe fouling up BB's debt offering and making noise about striking right now wasn't the best thought out plan by the almighty 357 leadership:

http://www.centreforaviation.com/bl...structuring-plan-for-the-entire-company-61957


As with SkyWest and Pinnacle, some of its CPA rates have become uneconomic and, during the SkyWest call, executives agreed with the Mr Bedford’s evaluation of the aircraft. He specifically targeted the ERJ 145s, also operated by American Eagle and on the way out of its fleet as well. He indicated that once Frontier’s problems were squared away, the company would turn to RJET stakeholders to reduce costs just as it did with Frontier.

It is trying to indefinitely defer its Embraer E-Jet deliveries and is set to take two new, 99-seat ERJ 190s in Dec-2011. It also wants to sell 10 ERJ 190s already in operation. Mr Bedford estimates that selling the 10 aircraft could yield USD40 million in cash. The 2010 order for six ERJ 190s were set for delivery this year. Mr Bedford told employees that devoting its limited cash to new aircraft is “impossible.”

As if its Frontier troubles were not enough, they were compounded yesterday by noise from its International Brotherhood of Teamster pilots for its CPA subsidiaries about striking. About 2,300 members are set to vote on a strike with the conclusion of voting set for 22-Nov-2011. The union covers pilots at Republic Airways Holding subsidiaries Republic Airways, Chautauqua and Shuttle America which do capacity purchase work for US Airways, United, Continental, Frontier, American and Delta.
It is doubtful a strike is imminent since action by the National Mediation Board (NMB) is necessary to declare an impasse in union/management negotiations, impose a cooling-off period which must happen before the NMB releases the union to strike.
In addition to a raise, picketers say they want improvements in working conditions, flight scheduling and seniority as well as receiving payments for layovers, according to the Indianapolis Star, the company’s hometown newspaper.

I am not the one spouting off about how great my union is, you are. I never said that the IBT was the most amazing thing to ever happen to me which is how you guys speak about FAPA. All unions suck, quit taking it so damn personally!:smash:

 

[Grey Ghost]

You have no idea what you're talking about. You may want to get your own house in order before commenting on ours.

But on a lighter note... maybe fouling up BB's debt offering and making noise about striking right now wasn't the best thought out plan by the almighty 357 leadership:
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Should the IBT work back room deals like FAPA did on the night before an election ends to keep things alive?

 

[F9 Driver]

I am not the one spouting off about how great my union is, you are. I never said that the IBT was the most amazing thing to ever happen to me which is how you guys speak about FAPA. All unions suck, quit taking it so damn personally!:smash:

Good god man! Do you ever post anything without a smiley face icon?

The issue I have isn't whether you think IBT is great. It is a horrible union for pilots. The problem I have is that you knew that when you forced it upon us.

All unions don't suck. All national unions suck to some degree because they have to kowtow to the national agenda. We liked FAPA and wanted to keep our in-house union, which represented us well - no matter what you think from the outside.

 

[Grey Ghost]

Sure, FAPA certainly did represent F9 pilots very well in the SLI. The sad part is it is only f9 pilots that they were concerned with based off your proposal. Just ask any of the former Midwest pilots that are now sitting right seat next to some 24 year old punk that complains about taking a full two years to upgrade? You seem to forget that Midwest was as your leadership put it a "career airline" as well, but you did not seem too concerned with them getting hosed in the SLI? Also, here is another smiley face just to make your blood boil!! :uzi:

 

[Captain Morgan]

Should the IBT work back room deals like FAPA did on the night before an election ends to keep things alive?

I thought that IBT and Eischen had something going on behind the scenes. uke:

 

[B727FA]

Maybe do something smart, like your flight attendants are doing,

What? A pilot is saying FA's are doing some 1--Smart and 2--BETTER?

 

[atr42flyer]

Just FYI

the selling of the E190's is in order to raise capital and then lease the jets back from the buyer. They do not want to dispose of the jets.

 

[Snaab]

I for one would love to a see a strike. Bedford is a toolbag.

 

[F9 Driver]

What? A pilot is saying FA's are doing some 1--Smart and 2--BETTER?

Absolutely!