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Southwest Airlines pilots mill around in support of management


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4:39 PM on Tue., Aug. 23, 2011 | Permalink






Southwest Airlines pilots held a demonstration in support of chairman and CEO Gary Kelly and other Southwest managers on Tuesday afternoon.
But anyone expecting shouting, pickets and slogans - I wasn't expecting them, by the way - would have been disappointed.
There was no such. Instead, it was simply a couple hundred Southwest pilots who showed up and stood around outside Southwest's Dallas headquarters to support the airline's management.

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(CREDIT: Terry Maxon/Dallas Morning News)

Support against what? you might ask. Well, last week, pilot leadership at AirTran Airways decided not to send a proposed agreement to its members, a deal that would spell out how AirTran's pilots would be folded into the Southwest seniority list.
Southwest executives spoke out in praise of the agreement between airline, Southwest union and AirTran union when first announced in July, and said it showed how everybody could work together in the merger of Southwest and AirTran.
So, when the master executive council of the Air Line Pilots Association voted down the proposal, it was an unhappy development for Southwest.
The Southwest Airlines Pilots' Association didn't organize the event, but provided water and support after some of its members hurriedly put it together.
"The Southwest pilots are showing up here today in support of Southwest Airlines, Southwest Airlines leadership, our people, our culture and the success of our company," said Dallas pilot Jacob North, communications chairman for SWAPA.
"It's fair to say our pilots have always supported our company. In light of recent events in the acquisition, we just wanted our company to know that we do in fact support Southwest Airlines and its people going forward."
Asked if it was intended negatively toward anyone, North said, "Absolutely not."
Southwest executive vice president Mike Van de Ven came out briefly to chat with the pilots in the 104-degree heat, but made no speech. Southwest spokesman Paul Flaningan said the company appreciated the pilots' support.
"At Southwest Airlines, we've always supported our employees' right to express themselves. This is a show of support for the company, and we appreciate their efforts and appreciate their intentions," Flaningan said.
As to any messages being sent, Flaningan said it was "a show of support for the company, for our leadership and what they're trying to do.
"Integration processes aren't always easy, but everyone's working hard and wants the same outcome, and I think that's what this is all about, just showing support to the leaders that they're behind them and that we're working together to achieve that one outcome that we all want."
(Kelly didn't show up during the time I was outside with the pilots, although I started feeling the effects of the heat and left before the pilots dispersed.)
 
It was a great event! Mike Van de Ven came out to thank us for showing our support. He spent a while in the hot sun, talking to a number of pilots. Several of our Chief Pilots came out to greet us. Gary took a few minutes after their meeting to come out and talk with us too.

I think our message was recieved loud and clear.
 
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A fun thing to do with this article is to replace the words "Southwest Pilots" with "Hitler Youth". "CEO Gary Kelly" with "Hitler". "Southwest Managers" with "SS officers". "Southwest Airlines" with "The Nazi Party". And anything to do with "Airtran" with "Jews". Seriously, try it. It's kind of ironic how well it works.
 
A fun thing to do with this article is to replace the words "Southwest Pilots" with "Hitler Youth". "CEO Gary Kelly" with "Hitler". "Southwest Managers" with "SS officers". "Southwest Airlines" with "The Nazi Party". And anything to do with "Airtran" with "Jews". Seriously, try it. It's kind of ironic how well it works.

I'm speechless.
 
I'm glad that guys like that are less than one percent at AAI. But it does cast quite a light on the situation.
 
A fun thing to do with this article is to replace the words "Southwest Pilots" with "Hitler Youth". "CEO Gary Kelly" with "Hitler". "Southwest Managers" with "SS officers". "Southwest Airlines" with "The Nazi Party". And anything to do with "Airtran" with "Jews". Seriously, try it. It's kind of ironic how well it works.

Lunatic.
 
A fun thing to do with this article is to replace the words "Southwest Pilots" with "Hitler Youth". "CEO Gary Kelly" with "Hitler". "Southwest Managers" with "SS officers". "Southwest Airlines" with "The Nazi Party". And anything to do with "Airtran" with "Jews". Seriously, try it. It's kind of ironic how well it works.


You my brother are sick. What the Jews went through is horrific . You just belittle it. Carma is a bitch my friend.
 
Any AirTran pilots show up? I got my hat, American Flag tie, One Luv lanyard but my blazer was still at the cleaners so I wasn't able to make it. I heard you guys had ice water but what about ice cream?
 
Good heavens! The more I see how the SWA folks behave regarding this deal the more I lose respect for them. I really thought you guys were more laid back than this. But alas when it comes to number 1 we now find that even the once lowly SWA pilots have more ego than the 737 is certified to carry. It's good to be on top and it sucks to fall from such great heights. It's coming boys... The reign at the top never lasts forever.
 
Good heavens! The more I see how the SWA folks behave regarding this deal the more I lose respect for them. I really thought you guys were more laid back than this. But alas when it comes to number 1 we now find that even the once lowly SWA pilots have more ego than the 737 is certified to carry. It's good to be on top and it sucks to fall from such great heights. It's coming boys... The reign at the top never lasts forever.

Spoken like an ALPA pilot.
 
Xanderman- I could double my income if I got a dollar for everytime I heard another pilot predict that. You lose all credibility if you think ALL mgmt is the enemy. And ultimately, preventing the downfall of SWA through this acquisition is exactly what the demonstration was all about.
 
Good heavens! The more I see how the SWA folks behave regarding this deal the more I lose respect for them. I really thought you guys were more laid back than this. But alas when it comes to number 1 we now find that even the once lowly SWA pilots have more ego than the 737 is certified to carry. It's good to be on top and it sucks to fall from such great heights. It's coming boys... The reign at the top never lasts forever.

What airline were you at that went from Number 1 to in the toilet? You sound as if you speak from experience. Buehler? Buehler? Anyone? Anyone?
 
It was a great turnout today...especially given the short notice. By my estimate, we had over 200 pilots show up. I heard we even had one captain come in from OAK. The failed AIP has really galvanized our pilot group and it definitely showed today. Thank you ALPA, I truly mean that.

I hope it works out well for the AT pilots...but at this point, its anyone's guess as to what that entails. Good luck.
 
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