If I hear one more "brief"...

[777forever]

So since nobody seems to transfer the controls while briefing on the line, how come everybody seems to do it in the sims or on line checks?

Because they have common sense...

 

[sweptback]

So what other parts of the FOM and OM do you not agree with and choose not to follow?

 

[IBNAV8R]

So, opening up the 'discussion' to questions after the brief is a sign of lack of confidence in one's abilities? It seems the friends and acquaintances I've lost over the years tend NOT to be the ones that "lacked confidence".

 

[JoeMerchant]

So what other parts of the FOM and OM do you not agree with and choose not to follow?

Do you drive 55 MPH on 85 or 75 thru ATL?...or is that "different"?

Personally, I think these briefing increase the odds of an altitude bust on arrival into ATL and more distracting than anything else....We have gone WAY overboard on the briefings.....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Because they have common sense...

Common sense is not allowed anymore with "recipe flying"....We must have a procedure for everything we do and there is no room to simply use common sense....

 

[Trcb777]

I once pushed execute on the FMS below 10000. That was before the ASAP program. That day still haunts me

 

[sweptback]

Do you drive 55 MPH on 85 or 75 thru ATL?...or is that "different"?

Personally, I think these briefing increase the odds of an altitude bust on arrival into ATL and more distracting than anything else....We have gone WAY overboard on the briefings.....

Apples and oranges. I own my car and do not get paid to operate it. I also do not operate a taxi service out of it.

And you are right that briefing increases the odds of busting an altitude. Which is why our manuals state that 1. you should brief at cruise, and 2. there should always be one person whose job it is to fly the airplane (hence transferring the controls).

Thank you for making my point for me.

 

[COOPERVANE]

I once pushed execute on the FMS below 10000. That was before the ASAP program. That day still haunts me

Maybe someday you can put the incident in the past....until then, I hope you find peace in your life.

 

[Abernathy]

So what other parts of the FOM and OM do you not agree with and choose not to follow?

I don't know, how many times have you broken sterile cockpit? Ever read non-approved material in the cockpit? Put on the O2 mask every single time the FO leaves the cockpit? Have you ever slid your seat back in flight when it's your leg?

Do you always keep your high horse in that glass house of yours?

 

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