Republican Candidates position on NLRB!

[luckytohaveajob]

The following article advocates the Repulblican Presidential Candidates need to reveal their positions against the National Labor Relations Board.

The NLRB has recently made a policy change stating a non vote is NOT a no vote. The ATA and Congress disagree and have acted to strip the NLRB of its powers through the courts and legislation.

Two years ago Boeing had a machinist strike in Washington. One of the actions Boeing took after resolving the strike was to build a second B787 assembly plant in South Carolina and make it NON-UNION.

The only good thing I can say about Obama is he has taken a hands off approach concerning the NLRB.

What will the republican candidates position be and why do unionized airline workers support republican candidates who are anti-labor?

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/SC-Gov-2012-GOP-hopefuls-need-to-challenge-unions-1367682.php

 

[Jetjockey]

What will the republican candidates position be and why do unionized airline workers support republican candidates who are anti-labor?

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/SC-Gov-2012-GOP-hopefuls-need-to-challenge-unions-1367682.php

The question of the century.

 

[Raoul Duke]

the decision to sue Boeing is a total joke if you bother to look into the facts. That decision will drive companies to locate factories overseas.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Tim Pawlenty and Ron Paul are clearly against airline workers after last nights debate finished.

Ron Paul says union wages are artificially created by the government. Tim Pawlenty says a company should be able to move its jobs around to avoid union wages.


http://www.goupstate.com/article/20110506/articles/110509767?p=1&tc=pg

 

[pilotyip]

Tim Pawlenty and Ron Paul are clearly against airline workers after last nights debate finished.

Ron Paul says union wages are artificially created by the government. Tim Pawlenty says a company should be able to move its jobs around to avoid union wages.

It is not about the union, it is about the worker's right to chose. It is called the right to work.

from wsj One of the under-appreciated fault lines in the U.S. economy is between the 22 "right-to-work" states and the rest of the country. The former have tended to do much better economically. Now some non-right-to-work states such as Indiana, Wisconsin and Michigan are thinking about joining this club that allows workers to opt-out of union membership.

Contrary to much union rhetoric, right-to-work laws don't ban or bust unions. They simply grant individual workers the right to join or not to join, even once a workplace is organized by a union. Workers who decline to join the union can't be forced to have dues taken out of their paycheck and thus used to finance union political campaigns. Most right-to-work states are in the South and West, and only Oklahoma has adopted this freedom to choose in the last 20 years.

Right-to-work states outperform forced-union states in almost every measurable category of worker well-being. A new study in the Cato Journal by economist Richard Vedder finds that from 2000 to 2008 some 4.7 million Americans moved from forced-union to right-to-work states.

The study also found that from 1977 through 2007 there was "a very strong and highly statistically significant relationship between right-to-work laws and economic growth." Right-to-work states experienced a 23% faster rise in per capita income over that period. The two regions that have lost the most jobs in recent years, the once-industrial Northeast and Midwest, are mostly forced-union states.

Indiana is a case study in the negative effects of forced unionism. Governor Mitch Daniels recently explained why his state lost a bid for a new Colgate factory that would have employed hundreds: "We did absolutely everything we could do. . . . We made an offer we believe was competitive in every other respect, but they [Colgate] want to be in a right-to-work state."

Mr. Daniels adds that the lack of a right-to-work law "does hold us back economically. There is no doubt about it." He estimates that when competing with Southern states for businesses, "a very large number—perhaps as many as a quarter—of the deals we don't get a shot at are for just this reason."

This damage has motivated Indiana Republicans, who now control both legislature chambers, to announce that they want to pass a right-to-work law. Unions immediately went to Defcon 1, Democrats are up in arms, and Republicans could yet buckle under this union pressure. Even Mr. Daniels, who has stood up to union opposition in the past, seems hesitant. He told the Indianapolis Star that right to work "may be worth a look," but he added it "is not on my agenda." He's worried that the issue so antagonizes unions that it could derail the rest of his legislative agenda.

We hope Republicans don't flinch. Right-to-work laws make states more economically competitive, but the bigger issue is about individual rights. Workers should have the right to join a union but also the right not to. Indiana and other states with new Republican majorities have a rare opportunity to pass a major reform that will reduce union power, help to attract new jobs, and liberate workers from union coercion.

 

[Smarta$$]

So Yipstick, in a unionized company that is based in a right to work state, if a member opts out of union membership and dues, what pay and benefits package do they receive?

 

[Jetjockey]

To sum it up: Screw unions, shift jobs however they like, deny collective bargaining, VOTE GOP.

 

[Raoul Duke]

there is no denial of collective bargaining in Right to Work states. At least take the time to get educated on the facts before sharing your opinion

 

[rigger]

Vote GOP or Vot DEM there is 100% no difference anymore, Sure they try to sound different but if you look at what they actually say and then what they do NO DIFFERENCE.

We had a GOP Pres a GOP congress and a GOP senate what did that do for us????
real deficits under them 5.0 trillion
total spending under them 20.5 trillion
total inflation adjusted increase to the fed budget 12 % under clinton and 42% under bush
Bush was the biggest spender since LBJ
Obumbles has doubled his rediculous spending and continues.....HOW COULD YOU SPEND MORE THEN BUSH AND THE REPUBS...THEY DID AND ARE!

The GOps contract with America had over 500 members of congress supporting spending cuts! Once Bush took office however there were only TWO Ron Paul and Jim SensenBrenner (R wis) Where did they all go?

The Dems took over and now we have 500+ members saying the same thing and saying sorry about last time! BS look at the non cut of a 1.3 trillion budget....they could not find 38 Billion when the CBO said there were 200 Billion of duplicate programs! Then the 38 Billion was really smoke and mirrors and is really 500 Million cause the other stuff they cut was gonna be spent anyway! DEMS did this and THE GOP did this and they argued about it 3 Diff times!

they dont think we are stupid THYE KNOW WE ARE STUPID CAUSE WE allow them to get away with it! CAUSE OUR SIDE IS RIGHT! NEITHER SIDE IS RIGHT WE ARE BROKE! ARGHHHHH

Im ok now!

Gotta look at all the history folks, want spending cuts......Look hard at the tea party for no other reason as they at least have not become progressive Dems/Repubs yet!

 

[Mr Wu]

If it was the NMB instead of the NLRB I might actually give a crap about this thread.

 

[A-V-8]

if it was the nmb instead of the nlrb i might actually give a crap about this thread.

+1...

 

[DonVerita]

Why do some airline employees vote Republican?

Answer: Because they are stupid. They live with their heads buried in the sand, not concerned with anything around them as long as it doesn't affect them personally at that moment in time. They research nothing. They listen to right-wing AM talk show bigots like Rush Limbaugh and get the rest of their distorted information from corporate controlled right-wing news organizations like Fox News - the mouthpiece of the Republican Party.

And then when pro-management scab material like Pilotyip come calling, along with other Republican corporate lapdogs like Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, the Tea Baggers, and the rest of the GOP House majority...to take away their worker and union rights, they sit there deaf and dumb wondering how this could have happened to them. Then they'll go on to defend their insane right wing political ideology as their career ship goes down, missing the point entirely as they exclaim in their last breath how "it's a right to work state".

"Right-To-Work" is a misnomer created by the Republican fear machine to cause dissention amongst the uneducated and apathetic that by somehow living in a certain state, that state gives you the right to work whereas other states do not. This is what the Republican party does best - Lie.

"Right-To-Work" is just a cover for its true meaning - To suppress or eliminate workers Right-To-Unionize.

The Republican Party has always been and will always be anti-union, anti-worker, anti-middle class. Their masters are the Corporations and the Rich. To vote for any Republican is to put a nail in your own coffin. They will NEVER have the People's best interests in mind, although they'll spin it 7 ways to Sunday to try to make you believe they do. The facts of history speak for themselves.

 

[Jetjockey]

there is no denial of collective bargaining in Right to Work states. At least take the time to get educated on the facts before sharing your opinion

Perhaps you missed the uproar in Wisconsin?

 

[jonjuan]

Why do some airline employees vote Republican?

Answer: Because they are stupid. They live with their heads buried in the sand, not concerned with anything around them as long as it doesn't affect them personally at that moment in time. They research nothing. They listen to right-wing AM talk show bigots like Rush Limbaugh and get the rest of their distorted information from corporate controlled right-wing news organizations like Fox News - the mouthpiece of the Republican Party.

And then when pro-management scab material like Pilotyip come calling, along with other Republican corporate lapdogs like Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, the Tea Baggers, and the rest of the GOP House majority...to take away their worker and union rights, they sit there deaf and dumb wondering how this could have happened to them. Then they'll go on to defend their insane right wing political ideology as their career ship goes down, missing the point entirely as they exclaim in their last breath how "it's a right to work state".

"Right-To-Work" is a misnomer created by the Republican fear machine to cause dissention amongst the uneducated and apathetic that by somehow living in a certain state, that state gives you the right to work whereas other states do not. This is what the Republican party does best - Lie.

"Right-To-Work" is just a cover for its true meaning - To suppress or eliminate workers Right-To-Unionize.

The Republican Party has always been and will always be anti-union, anti-worker, anti-middle class. Their masters are the Corporations and the Rich. To vote for any Republican is to put a nail in your own coffin. They will NEVER have the People's best interests in mind, although they'll spin it 7 ways to Sunday to try to make you believe they do. The facts of history speak for themselves.

And yet the vast majority of swapa dudes are Republicans. Ironic, huh? . Your preacher, Bill Maher is on. Don't forget to scurry off and catch him.

 

[pilotyip]

there is no denial of collective bargaining in Right to Work states. At least take the time to get educated on the facts before sharing your opinion

Thank you; good to see someone open minded enough to see the bigger picture. Michigan is a classic example of the one of the most pro-union states in the country. It is also the one with the largest drop in population in the country, the largest loss of jobs, and a place where union companies declare BK to stay in business. States like OK, ND, SC, and IN are "Right to work States" where the people are morning in order to find the jobs. They still have unions, they still have collective bargaining, but you just don't have to have your dues flow into the Dem coffers if you don't want to. It has something to do with individual freedom as opposed to politically correct thinking imposed by a union boss. BTW thanks for the name calling in the other posts it is so FI. As for union stuff been there done that, one thing unions can not do in the private sector is to guarantee jobs

 

[Jetjockey]

Michigan is a classic example of the one of the most pro-union states in the country. It is also the one with the largest drop in population in the country, the largest loss of jobs

I don't suppose that has anything to due with the fact that all of the big three automakers were in the tank.

 

[27 driver]

What will the republican candidates position be and why do unionized airline workers support republican candidates who are anti-labor?


All politicians are anti labor. What has Obama or any other politician done for labor. Big business gets them elected and big business rules.

 

[27 driver]

Why do some airline employees vote Republican?

Answer: Because they are stupid. They live with their heads buried in the sand, not concerned with anything around them as long as it doesn't affect them personally at that moment in time. They research nothing. They listen to right-wing AM talk show bigots like Rush Limbaugh and get the rest of their distorted information from corporate controlled right-wing news organizations like Fox News - the mouthpiece of the Republican Party.

And then when pro-management scab material like Pilotyip come calling, along with other Republican corporate lapdogs like Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, the Tea Baggers, and the rest of the GOP House majority...to take away their worker and union rights, they sit there deaf and dumb wondering how this could have happened to them. Then they'll go on to defend their insane right wing political ideology as their career ship goes down, missing the point entirely as they exclaim in their last breath how "it's a right to work state".

"Right-To-Work" is a misnomer created by the Republican fear machine to cause dissention amongst the uneducated and apathetic that by somehow living in a certain state, that state gives you the right to work whereas other states do not. This is what the Republican party does best - Lie.

"Right-To-Work" is just a cover for its true meaning - To suppress or eliminate workers Right-To-Unionize.

The Republican Party has always been and will always be anti-union, anti-worker, anti-middle class. Their masters are the Corporations and the Rich. To vote for any Republican is to put a nail in your own coffin. They will NEVER have the People's best interests in mind, although they'll spin it 7 ways to Sunday to try to make you believe they do. The facts of history speak for themselves.

Typical left wing response. Anyone who doesn't agree with me is stupid. No substance just name calling. Can you name any democrats who have helped the aviation profession or tried to change the RLA. As someone said earlier...they are all the same.

 

[pilotyip]

What will the republican candidates position be and why do unionized airline workers support republican candidates who are anti-labor?


All politicians are anti labor. What has Obama or any other politician done for labor. Big business gets them elected and big business rules.

Here is how the UAW did it; they reach a deal with a single company, then go to the next company and say match it or you will be shutdown and all the new cars being sold will be built someplace else, then they go to the next company and repeat. When the auto companies where rolling in money it was a good deal for all. But over the last 30 years it has eliminated 70% of the union jobs, gave great raise to non-union companies It goes back to a killer contract the companies were forced to accept back in 1993. They borrowed lots of money to pay the bills, kinda like living off your credit cards and then it was BK time. When you are in a cash flow pinch because of too much borrowing, a union strike threat is much akin to a bad guy holding a gun to your head and asking for your wallet, you give him your wallet. Because you might not lose your life right away.

 

[27 driver]

Here is how the UAW did it; they reach a deal with a single company, then go to the next company and say match it or you will be shutdown and all the new cars being sold will be built someplace else, then they go to the next company and repeat. When the auto companies where rolling in money it was a good deal for all. But over the last 30 years it has eliminated 70% of the union jobs, gave great raise to non-union companies, and then was BK time. They borrowed lots of money to pay the bills, kinda like living off your credit cards. It goes back to a killer contract the companies were forced to accept back in 1993. When you are in a cash flow pinch because of too much borrowing, a union strike threat is much akin to a bad guy holding a gun to your head and asking for your wallet, you give him your wallet.

All unions are not the same. Most aren't bound by the RLA. What happened to the auto makers was inevitable and the same thing is happening to the local and state govt's now. The country is broke from the top down and neither the left or the right has a plan to fix it. Tough times lie ahead.