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Freebrd

Freebrd

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Lacka crews but oh baby we be flying below quarantee on these unproductive pairings eh? How many cancelled today already? Does big daddy Delta know what be going on at ASA :eek:
 
ASA management is making Mesa look like a quality operation.
 
And it's only March! Can you imagine the cluster that awaits us? People need to be fired, and if that leads all the way to the top, so be it. Find someone who can assemble a team that is capable of running an operation on a consistent basis. I'm a little tired of my future depending on a bunch of incompetants.
 
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I can't believe anyone would call in sick with the chance to win one of 5 TVs or iPads out there!
 
You don't even need to call in sick for the wheels to fall off. They produced such crappy pairings that resulted in so much uncovered opentime, that they've run out of reserves.
 
SWA, USAIR, and FEDEX, and perhaps DELTA hiring this year. I think they'll feel the burn.

The funny thing is they think they're being so flippin' smart by staffing this way.
 
They are still not being transparent about premium pay for open time either, waiting til the last second to call and offer 200 percent!!! Not a staffing issue either. Its a lack of management and coordination from the top!! Who ever let these pairings happen should be fired yesterday. Not Papa Smurfio either. His firing was just killing the messenger!!!
 
RE: POPO firing

That depends on if it continues to happen.

I dont think 7 legs is going to fly either. Enter in IROP and things go bad quick.
 
90 CRJ200s do 9 legs each every day from ATL.

The average leg length it 1.3 hrs...I think the legs are weighted more to the shorter ones though. There are more short legs than there are longer ones.

So...

How do you want it staffed?

You want to credit 85-95 hrs/month and fly 6-7 leg days with shorter overnights?
Or do you want to fly 3-5 legs and barely break guarantee?
 
Do we care? I sure as h*ll dont. Burn the place down. Let it fall on its face. There's absolutely NOTHING we can do to fix it. We, the front line pilots, mechanics, flight attendants keep this place running day in and day out and its been that way since day one. We "communicate" with our "leaders" they "hear" our concerns then promptly figure out another way to spend a dollar to save a dime. I'm all for having a job, trust me, but let this place fail. Make sure your passengers are taken care of first and foremost. They pay our salary. We'll keep dong our jobs as professionally as we can. Our pilot group will most certainly demonstrate this professionalism. However, there is only so much we can do, and I think we've done it. The ball is in their court. If they desire to run this place on a shoestring, let them. Our union won't help. The merger won't help. Skywest won't help. Our performace will go down the toilet and some other bottom feeder regional will get the business. History repeats itself.
 
johnpeace said:
90 CRJ200s do 9 legs each every day from ATL.

The average leg length it 1.3 hrs...I think the legs are weighted more to the shorter ones though. There are more short legs than there are longer ones.

So...

How do you want it staffed?

You want to credit 85-95 hrs/month and fly 6-7 leg days with shorter overnights?
Or do you want to fly 3-5 legs and barely break guarantee?
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That pretty much sums it up for the 200.

I still think alot of this is about dual qual and having the majority of the pilots miserable to vote dual qual in.

Yes the stage length Is a major factor too.
 
I will not vote anything extra in until the merger is complete, and we have a different face, or brain to our Union.
 
I guess ASA missed making the newspapers. Well, it won't be long before we're back in the headlines as "Worst Airline for...[fill in the blank]".
 
The stage length thing is HORSESH!T!!! I had 85-95 hrs in nov, dec, Jan and Feb without 7 leg days! 16-18 leg trips were more than enough. Now all of a sudden they can't make it work. Mean whilst, this month.....all my four days are 14 legs and 17 hrs. Guess what?! Add in 4 more legs over two of those days and bingo! 20 hr trip! Spread that over all the pairings AND ALL THAT UNCOVERED OPEN TIME WOULD NOT EXIST! Trips nobody can/will pick up because they are so far under MMG! Last Wed at about 7 pm, there was 1 reserve left for the whole weekend, and he was nap reserve on Saturday! What are they freaking doing? Saving "soft costs" on the pairings!?!?!? How expensive are 200% pickups and cancelled flights? Last Sat. 6 overnights were cancelled for lack of crews! Soon, ASA flying will go over to Pinnacle and Comair due to this massive level of incompetence! Dual qual may be a factor here (If so, heads should roll at Delta's request for messing up their operation). I also think the company has NO IDEA to use PBS. They are solely running the pairings on cost factor, and using no common sense.

Good luck to us all.
 
0 reserves on the 700 today and I see they have started dropping ready reserve shifts into open time. Good Luck!
 
Plainsman said:
I will not vote anything extra in until the merger is complete, and we have a different face, or brain to our Union.
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AMEN!

We need some guys who will really stand up for our pilots, not people who make endless excuses for all the ways we are getting screwed. We painted ourselves into a difficult corner, and it will be hard to find a way to fix things.

-Let it fall apart. I just don't give a rat anymore.
 
777forever said:
ASA sure did spend $1 in March trying to save a dime....
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They saved roughly $100,000 eliminating deadheads, min day credits, and duty day credits. When you factor the cost of extensions, Junior Mans, cancellations, etc; month to date, they are projected to have spent $100,000 for the month. They could have spent the money up front and saved some of our performance before the heavy hitters try to sink the place.

It's alarming to see the staffing problems in mid-March with the prime source of attrition NOT hiring. Don't worry, they'll have the boys back from DC before summer starts.
 
Funny, this time last month JP sends an email essentially gloating that we'd be working more days for less pay. Now they are begging for help from the very people they set out to screw over. How did the not see this coming?
 
CT hinted at 18 upgrades after the most recent 36 new hires come online, but are we really hiring and upgrading enough?
 
Bring back George and John!
 
Glad to see we're not the only ones. XJT/ASA management loves to try and make the pilots feel guilty for this. Honestly, I don't want to NOT help out. But they knew this was an issue, at least on the XJT side for over a year. We are hiring a lot of guys now though. I hear XJT training center is running full steam ahead right now, all 3 sims are running 22hrs a day and we have guys at flightsafety too.
 

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