Future regional aircraft

[Speedtape]

two by fours with chain saw engines. IF they leave on time, no one cares. It could be a lawnchair with balloons and a hand held fan for directional control and forward thrust.

Major airlines need feed. Regional feed keeps the icing on the cake. USair, and former Allegheny taught the industry this basic lesson years ago.

 

[Quimby]

Turboprops are a dead platform. Economically, they make a lot of sense but passengers don't like them now just they didn't like them years ago. I would expect that RJ efficiencies will improve with new models getting introduced (like the MRJ). Geared turbofans and ground up composite engineering will have a sizable effect on the economy of this class of aircraft. None of the RJs currently flying were really ever designed to be RJs (except for the big EMB's and they were never designed to be uber efficient). They were just rebuilds from otherwise irrelevant airframes. If the technology in the 787 pans out, you can bet other types will be engineered to take advantage of them.

Turboprops aren't dead. Pax may not like them, but they still get on them, day after day.

50 seat RJ's are dead.

 

[the palm]

Turboprops aren't dead. Pax may not like them, but they still get on them, day after day.

50 seat RJ's are dead.

And yet hundreds of them are still operating every day. Hmmm.....

 

[resetjet]

http://www.flightglobal.com/article...r-crj700s-for-delta-connection-operation.html

 

[WSurf]

And yet hundreds of them are still operating every day. Hmmm.....

Of course there are. Do you think they can all be parked at once? We are talking about the future. And I'm sorry the 50 Seat RJ market will shrink in the Future.

They won't completely go away. Just like the Turboprops never completely went away during the big RJ explosion of the 90's. There will be a market of the 50 Seat RJ's, but it probably wont be the 30 minute puddle jump that a Turboprop Can do in the same time frame while burning 40% less fuel.

Delta and US Airways wants to cut there 50 Seat RJ flying. And soon they will. The future will remain Large RJ's and probably more orders of Large Turboprops (Also know as TurboProfits).

But then again this is the airlines and I don't think any of us have a crystal ball.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

In 10 years there will be no "mainline" domestic flying except for long haul trans continental stuff. It will all be done by "regionals" operating everything from 0-130 seats.

I agree with this.

 

[Quimby]

And yet hundreds of them are still operating every day. Hmmm.....

Are they even making 50 seat jets anymore? Will they be in 5 years?

They'll be making turboprops. Bet on it.

 

[Jetjockey]

In 10 years there will be no "mainline" domestic flying except for long haul trans continental stuff. It will all be done by "regionals" operating everything from 0-130 seats.

Wishful thinking by someone who plans on making a career at a "regional". The tide has turned. Past performance is not an indicator to future events.

There will no doubt be new 90-130 seat jets being used. They WILL have mainline pilots flying them.

 

[the palm]

Wishful thinking by someone who plans on making a career at a "regional". The tide has turned. Past performance is not an indicator to future events.

There will no doubt be new 90-130 seat jets being used. They WILL have mainline pilots flying them.

Wishful thinking? Reality my friend. Reality. History is about to repeat itself.

 

[the palm]

Are they even making 50 seat jets anymore? Will they be in 5 years?

They'll be making turboprops. Bet on it.

They will also be making CRJ 1000's, 2000's, etc. to be flown by "regional pilots." I can't wait!

 

[IBNAV8R]

The carriers, equipment and pilots flying the domestic market in 10 years will be determined by economic factors and NOT by anyone "taking back" THEIR flying. Pay structures for international flying will also be determined by economic factors including competitors NOT be limited by the Jones Act.

20 year prediction:
UniConDelAmUS, Inc. will be a clearing house for ticket sales to domestic (by then the North American Union) codeshare partners (regionals flying whatever) and international partners (subsidized by their governments who receive ludicrous aid from the NAU)

25 year prediction:
Under pressure from UniConDelAmUS and several "industry groups", regional pilot pay is deemed too costly and the Jones act is repealed.

30 year prediction: All flying done remotely by outsourced flight stations in India, Bangladesh or one of the Baltic states.

 

[Jetjockey]

They will also be making CRJ 1000's, 2000's, etc. to be flown by "regional pilots." I can't wait!

Wishful thinking? Reality my friend. Reality. History is about to repeat itself.

Your going to have to re-apply at the new United to fly anything bigger than the 70 seater, and we may be taking those back too. Enjoy your career, or until your capacity agreement ends.

 

[the palm]

Your going to have to re-apply at the new United to fly anything bigger than the 70 seater, and we may be taking those back too. Enjoy your career, or until your capacity agreement ends.

Nah, I won't have to apply. When ASA/SKYW buys the new UniCal I'll be sitting just fine in my career.

 

[Jetjockey]

Nah, I won't have to apply. When ASA/SKYW buys the new UniCal I'll be sitting just fine in my career.

That's funny. Do the drugs cause the delusions, or is that the radon fumes from your parent's basement you live in?

United Market capitalization $8.04 Billion
Skywest market cap $932.49M

Yeah, that will happen.

 

[homerjdispatch]

There are reasons CEO's arent pilots and Pilots arent CEO's.....