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Please re-read my post. No, once I got my comm, instrument, multiple I did not pay for any further flying or type rating. That is when you should consider yourself a professional. When you have the qualifications to fly for pay. Whether it be flying cargo, flight instructing etc.
Please explain why SWA is not charging each AAI pilot a fee for a type? Could they have made that a part of the deal? And to answer your question, AAI had no requirement that cost me financially to get hired.

It is completely arbitrary to make a distinction between you paying for those "qualifications" and someone paying for a type rating. AAI required you to have those ratings to get hired. You paid for those ratings. That does not mean you "paid for training" and neither did SWA pilots.

As I posted earlier neither I, nor any other SWA pilot paid Southwest airlines for a type. That is why no AAI pilot will be asked to pay Southwest airlines for one.
 
Well said! Good answer! Is this over already?
 
Please listen to yourself It's not ego my friend, it's principle. Just as you think we (AAI PILOTS) bring nothing to the table and should be treated thusly. Many believe that Paying for a job is just as wrong. You were a professional pilot before you got hired at Southwest yet you sold out your professional principles for $$$ and the job. That is your decision, but please don't try to shove your (grand financial southwest windfall)l down others throats as the greatest thing since sliced bread. There is still a thing called integrity.

Well...... I guess I considered it an investment in my future. I also paid $50 to apply at Northwest, $50 for United, I paid $200 for my Delta interview hotel/meals, I paid the same for my American interview experience.

BTW, I'm not shoving my "grand financial windfall" down your throats. I'm simply trying to express the GRAND FINANCIAL WINDFALL that exists at Southwest.

See you on the other side,
Gup
 
Hey Old Man, Didn't Valuejet make their guys cough up $12000 for their training? Then it was miserable pay and work rules to follow. Get off your "principle" high horse. And by the way, SWA never charged anyone a fee to get hired. They required a type rating and it didn't matter where it came from. Until now I thought you were pretty level headed but you touched a nerve with your self righteous attitude on that one.
 
Hey Old Man, Didn't Valuejet make their guys cough up $12000 for their training? Then it was miserable pay and work rules to follow. Get off your "principle" high horse. And by the way, SWA never charged anyone a fee to get hired. They required a type rating and it didn't matter where it came from. Until now I thought you were pretty level headed but you touched a nerve with your self righteous attitude on that one.

Not meaning to be self righteous at all. Just an opinion.
 
Previous arbiter says pay and work rules are factored in to SLI, to the dismay of some AAI blowhards...


"Simply stated, the rates of pay, rules and working conditions in the Chautauqua Pilots' collective bargaining agreement, are far superior to those found in the Shuttle America Pilots' collective bargaining agreement. As a result of the acquisition Shuttle America Pilots will be the beneficiaries of the superior rates of pay, rules and working conditions found in the Chautauqua Pilots collective bargaining agreement."


far superior...does that sound similiar?
 
Yeah, except that Shuttle America was bankrupt, had a contract that was gutted in bankruptcy, and the very existence of the airline was in question. :laugh:

Feel lucky? Take your chances with arbitration, but tell it to your union, don't waste your breath on us. Tell 'em let's go to arbitration . . . Then go get a hobby.

Some of you SWA folks are like Amway salesman. You're convinced that you're right, and insist on pushing your belief on everyone else. Give it a rest, you aren't winning anyone over, you're just getting ignored.

The topic of this thread is about Bermuda. See you on the other side. . . . .;)
 
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