5 year Upgrades at Eagle (and dropping)

[Jet_Driver]

I am surprised no one on here has mentioned this yet.... Did you know that 5 months ago it took 10 years to hold Jet Captain at Eagle and now it only takes 5? You might not know this, but Eagle is on track to exceed its planned hiring for 2010 by double and has already picked up hiring plans for 2011 from 300 by 150 for at least 450. So, between 2010/2011 Eagle will add between 600 - 700 pilots (out of a seniority list of ~2800, that's pretty amazing). The most junior Jet Captain on the most recent preliminary bid is in LGA on the EMJ and is a AUG '05 hire. So, in 5 months, the upgrade dropped 5 years. AA is recalling Eagle Flow-Through pilots beginning in January, and there are more to come beyond that. This month the upgrade time is 5 years, who knows where it will be in another 5 months.

While is is common to only hear negative news on here, I think this is some positive news that Eagle folks can be excited about.

At least Eagle no longer holds the dubious honor of the longest upgrade time.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Times are a-changin'

 

[ePilot22]

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=137269





eP.

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

Things are going to start moving really fast around here. I think this is just the beginning.

 

[cr7driver]

Good for the Eagle guys. Its about time.

 

[bizicmo]

I always thought the longest regional upgrade was USAir.

 

[the palm]

I am reporting this thread to the Mods. No mention of ASA anywhere. Please remove.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

I am reporting this thread to the Mods. No mention of ASA anywhere. Please remove.

Gotta admit, that is funny. You'd think ASA guys could get their own forum like every other airline lol. Oh we'll they'll be joining ours now.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Where's that tool Pipejockey when you need him?

 

[Mongolikecandy]

Really? I am the first to get to say it? Mesa Sucks.

 

[whippingboy]

Do the AE flow thru's w/o a number at AA get a class date at AA when hiring starts again? I've seen someone post this on another website but to my knowledge no one was sure

 

[DGdaPilot]

Yes. It is currently being negotiated as remanded by Arbitrator Nicolau. We have 824 slots that will have an opportunity at AA.

 

[pipejockey]

Where's that tool Pipejockey when you need him?

And why is it that you feel I'm a tool? Because you don't agree with some things that I have said? I don't believe I've ever called you a childish name. And why have I been called out in a lame as* Eagle thread?

So is this 5 year upgrade on the line flying as Captain and collecting Captain pay? Until you are taking home Captain pay, you ain't no Captain! No he's not you say? Then when is his fed ride? He doesn't have one scheduled yet? Well then he must have his type ride scheduled in the sim then! Oh, uh he doesn't even have that scheduled either? Ok, Ok, so when is his upgrade class date, surely he must have a training date set! WHAT??? He hasn't even been scheduled his freaking class date yet?

Folks, this talk of 5 year upgrades, is unfortunately, currently greatly exaggerated. You actually have to BE a captain to count as an upgraded Captain. and this 05' hire is many months away from actually holding captain! And where is all this movement going to come from when the 22 CRJ deliveries are complete by next June? And please don't tell me American and start babbling about some arbitrator and 824 numbers. AA still has nearly 2,000 pilots furloughed! Even with only 50% of those accepting recall, that leave nearly 1,000 pilots who still have to return to AA. Even at a recall rate of 50 a month, it will take another 18 months at best before any of the 824 go over. Not to mention talk of selling/divesting/spinning off of Eagle. And I'm sure the good ole APA still has some tricks up their sleeves for keeping as few Eagle pilots as possible from going over. I guess the APA would be happier with a bunch of Mesa/Republic/Colgan/ and the like being hired over there when the day comes. And if they think their squadron buddies are going to fill up the new hire classes, then they are high!


NEXT!!

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

Pipe jockey why all the hate towards Eagle? Are you generally this negative with everything in life? Is it hard for you to be happy about things that don't directly involve you? In rough times it is nice to hear about movement that is going on regardless of how or why. By late spring Eagle will have a 08/05 DOH captain. (yes the flow plan is out) That is great considering upgrades use to be 9-10 years. There will be 28/29 year olds sitting in the left seat which at Eagle is pretty darn good. Eagle will be losing another 35 captains in Jan to AA and another 40 or so in Feb and that will continue month by month until the rest of the 240 or so are sucked up. I don't know who you are or have ever seen a post by you, but you come off as someone who was wronged by eagle at one point in time.

NEXT!!

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Upgraded at eagle in 18 months, JFK CA SF340. 1998.