DR is Back!? ASA hiring department back?

[777forever]

Just heard that DR is back in the office at A-tech. Someone had posted months ago on here that he retired. Glad to see he's back if its true and hopefully lots of hiring on the horizon.

 

[Data]

That's because a ton of the XJT guys on furlough aren't coming back, they've only got 20-some takers so far.

 

[701EV]

No! say it ain't so!

We need some new blood in that dept!

 

[Freebrd]

DR is he a loser or looser???????????

 

[sayrejm]

Dale or dan?

 

[Cpt Oveur]

I'm pretty sure he's NOT talking about the one who taught indoc, he's talking about the former head of hiring to return to that post

 

[crj567]

Gosh-

I must have misread DR's memo... I thought it was just a statement of the rather obvious fact that he is RETARDED, not RETIRING.

-We REALLY need new blood over there! That clown has hired some real goombahs!

(And for clarification, they are referring to the suckup a-hole who used to be the CP-who screwed the HELL out of everyone, not the cool guy who used to do indoc.)

 

[Oakum_Boy]

20 takers out of 48? Boy, here management thought this place was the second coming of Pan Am.

 

[ASApuppy]

20 takers out of 48? Boy, here management thought this place was the second coming of Pan Am.

Oh no, actually far worse than that. Xjet has 222 on furlough and we only got basically 1 out of ever 10 to take the offer.

I do commend ASA management for just flat out offering jobs to these folks ahead of the completed merger. I would have expected that they would have just been given preferential interviews. Perhaps, the offer was for the benefit of the Xjet MEC so that they drop their idea of forcing a merge with Skywest.

I was truely hoping that we would return to the model of Pilots hiring Pilots. Silly me for thinking that as upper management has not changed yet.

 

[Beergut]

Just heard that DR is back in the office at A-tech. Someone had posted months ago on here that he retired. Glad to see he's back if its true and hopefully lots of hiring on the horizon.

I hope the hell so! I'm getting tired of scheduling trying to get me on my days off. Now those buttholes are junior manning pilots on the last day of their trips. Any goodwill that was left is deteriating fast. :angryfire

 

[at7driver]

He went fishing didnt he ????

 

[Freebrd]

He went fishing didnt he ????

yeh but unfortunately he didn't fall in :smash:

 

[COOPERVANE]

Well, they haven't started the old JM one day in advance via ACARS yet. It might be around the corner.

I think it's because they cant think one day ahead. more like 20 minutes.

 

[bigshooter107]

Big annoucement next week.

 

[rjacobs]

Xjet has 222 on furlough and we only got basically 1 out of ever 10 to take the offer.

Completely false number.

We had ~350 total on furlough and had already brought back somewhere into the 175-200 range(after deferrals) before this ASA deal was announced. I believe we called into the very bottom of the list of furloughed guys so I think almost everybody(maybe the bottom 25 or so have not) has had a chance to come back to XJT or ASA at this point. I dont think many of the guys who have deferred or turned down ASA classes are coming back at all at this point. I have one buddy who has deferred and he was going to take the first ASA class, but he had a prior commitment and will probably go to the October class if it still has slots left.

 

[OCP]

Well, they haven't started the old JM one day in advance via ACARS yet. It might be around the corner.

I think it's because they cant think one day ahead. more like 20 minutes.

Maybe not via ACARS, but they are JMing 72 hrs out. Heard quite a few people getting that.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Maybe not via ACARS, but they are JMing 72 hrs out. Heard quite a few people getting that.

Didn't know that

 

[777forever]

Big annoucement next week.

Based on the Flightinfo track record the big annoucement is probably true but as far as next week prediction, it'll probably end up being in January.

Oh, Its now official..

ASA IS HIRING OFF THE STREET!

(Posted from another site, haven't found the source yet)

Requisition Number 10-0302
Post Date 9/24/2010
Title First Officer
Part Time No
City Various Crew Bases
State GA
Job Description The duty of an Atlantic Southeast Airlines First Officer is to assist the Captain in the conduct of all duties to help ensure the safe, legal, and efficient operation of the aircraft and operation. A flight officer must maintain the highest level of professional standards and comply with all company policy and procedures. All First Officers are required to pursue the highest standards of airmanship, leadership and decision making skills.
Requirements
Requirements:

Commercial certificate with instrument and multi engine ratings.
(ATP or ATP Written preferred)
Be at least twenty one years of age on the date of hire.
Minimum high school graduate or GED.
(four-year college degree preferred)
Possess a valid state Driver's License.
Possess a valid Passport.
Must be eligible to work in the United States without restrictions.
Must be willing to accept/relocate to a base assignment in any current or future crew bases (currently Atlanta, GA and Washington-Dulles, VA).
Possess a current FAA Class 1 Medical Certificate.
Must be able to pass an FAA required drug screening and background check.
Be well groomed and able to maintain a professional appearance at all times.
Required Hours:
1500 - hours total time*
100 - hours of multi engine time
*The total time requirement may be reduced based on the type of aviation education and training, completion of an Atlantic Southeast airlines approved advanced jet training program or additional flight certificates and ratings acquired.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

fresh meat

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Maybe not via ACARS, but they are JMing 72 hrs out. Heard quite a few people getting that.

Uncle Rico has you right where he want you!

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Seriously? Is this what the future holds.. Getting jm'ed before you've even made it home??

 

[OCP]

Seriously? Is this what the future holds.. Getting jm'ed before you've even made it home??

Yes... But if you are too TIRED TO FLY. Then you MUST CALL IN FATIGUED. I am still amazed at how scared line holders are to do this. All you need to do is say, "I can no longer continue with this assignment. I am fatigued." You say the same exact thing to a chief pilot, and go home. Fill out the form however you want and should also fill out an ASAP so that the feds learn we are a very fatigued airline. That is is. No nothing. Just don't fly tired.

 

[Data]

So I heard in recurrent that 90% of fatigue calls are coming from pilots under the age of 30. I didn't realize they track these stats but, if true, what is this, a generational thing? Is the entitlement generation not getting the love they need to carry on? Here, I'll say it so that you guys feel better; We appreciate all that you do.

 

[goahead]

The job posting is on the asa website, myasa-careers.......

 

[79%N1]

Yes... But if you are too TIRED TO FLY. Then you MUST CALL IN FATIGUED. I am still amazed at how scared line holders are to do this. All you need to do is say, "I can no longer continue with this assignment. I am fatigued." You say the same exact thing to a chief pilot, and go home. Fill out the form however you want and should also fill out an ASAP so that the feds learn we are a very fatigued airline. That is is. No nothing. Just don't fly tired.

And then be docked 4 hrs pay....just saying.

 

[Av8trix616]

So I heard in recurrent that 90% of fatigue calls are coming from pilots under the age of 30. I didn't realize they track these stats but, if true, what is this, a generational thing? Is the entitlement generation not getting the love they need to carry on? Here, I'll say it so that you guys feel better; We appreciate all that you do.

That may be true, but it's also hard to draw conclusions without more info on this- I'd imagine that pilots under 30 make up a much greater percentage of reserve and junior lineholders- ie, the folks getting extended and junior manned. They would also have worse schedules to start with. 50-somethings with great seniority working 3 day trips or 9 hour naps will not, of course be affected by the same factors as the junior crowd.

I try to remember when someone throws out an off-the-cuff number like that, that there are "Lies, damned lies, and statistics"

 

[buscap]

So I heard in recurrent that 90% of fatigue calls are coming from pilots under the age of 30. I didn't realize they track these stats but, if true, what is this, a generational thing? Is the entitlement generation not getting the love they need to carry on? Here, I'll say it so that you guys feel better; We appreciate all that you do.

There are two different kind of fatigue calls. The "tired" kind and the "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore" kind. (think NETWORK)

I would say the most dangerous fatigue situation is the just plain tired pilot, who simply did not get enough sleep in the previous 24 hours to support the day they are asked to fly.

Also dangerous but maybe less so, is the pilot who is simply sick of the crap schedules, commuting, extensions, and contract violations. Without a good work ethic and light at the end of the tunnel, that pilot will be distracted, stressed, and chronically fatigued.

For some folks, the current staffing situation is not a problem, depending on their personal disposition and background. But if this is one's first real job out of college, I doubt the skills needed to cope in such a situation are present. Sucking-it-up, manning up, pull your weight, etc., are not part of the child rearing industry in the US.

And unfortunately, management is doing absolutely nothing to let these kids know their efforts are appreciated or a short term situation. And while I am loathe to do so, I would submit most folks are unable to realize just how much it could suck more. Call Comair.

But at the same time, we absolutely must fix this situation, while still getting the job done, before some distracted-commuting-extended-peeeessed off-pilot bends metal.

And after the metal is bent, it would be nice if there was a more noble reason for them not having their head in the game, besides poor staffing management.

Pilots should be fatigued because they were out partying or rodgering the FA all night. There is no honor in schedule related fatigue.

 

[Abernathy]

So I heard in recurrent that 90% of fatigue calls are coming from pilots under the age of 30. I didn't realize they track these stats but, if true, what is this, a generational thing? Is the entitlement generation not getting the love they need to carry on? Here, I'll say it so that you guys feel better; We appreciate all that you do.

That's probably because the people above 30 have decent schedules and aren't on reserve, genius. Generational thing? whatever.

 

[Speedtape]

Gosh-

I must have misread DR's memo... I thought it was just a statement of the rather obvious fact that he is RETARDED, not RETIRING.

-We REALLY need new blood over there! That clown has hired some real goombahs!

(And for clarification, they are referring to the suckup a-hole who used to be the CP-who screwed the HELL out of everyone, not the cool guy who used to do indoc.)

He hired me. And, he probably hired you! So, are we goombahs? I will be the judge of that! He has been involved in the hiring process for most of the last 27 years. Goombahs get hired everywhere--it's called slipping through the cracks! I am just glad we are all Rocket Scientists.

 

[Freebrd]

aint it ironic that they can't hire enough pilots but bring back and pay this tool of a CP to hire. geez couldn't SH do it he might have to miss a few RGT classes but come on let's see some efficiency here :laugh::laugh::laugh: