JBLU - pilot pay

[shon7]

How is pilot pay for Jblu calculated. Is it a brakes off to brakes on model or more like WN with Trips for Pay.

Curious howthey account for the fact that cockpit crews are doing Weight and Balance? Any change to block times, report times and how are pilots compensated for this - if at all?

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Pay is standard brakes-off to brakes-on. No extra for the two minutes it takes to do W&B.

 

[Splert]

Pay is standard brakes-off to brakes-on. No extra for the two minutes it takes to do W&B.

That is not defined in any of our documents (FSM, FSM2010 or PEA).

 

[waterski]

I finish my W&B before the cockpit door is closed.

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

That is not defined in any of our documents (FSM, FSM2010 or PEA).

but is the way it works.

 

[Splert]

but is the way it works.

You are correct...yesterday that is the way it worked.

We have no policy that determines when we started getting more than $2.00 hour and are you okay with that?

Sweet!

 

[StarChecker]

but is the way it works.

Right now...JetBlue pilots fly our 190's...

but that's the way it works.


Right now....we have a 401K contribution...

but that's the way it works.


Right now...we pay a set amount for our health insurance....

but that's the way it works.


Right now....we have work rules...

but that's the way it works.


All of these things may work fine now...but they can be changed via info notice. We need a CBA yesterday.

Our direct relationship hard at work....but who's it working for?

CBA....yesterday.

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

You are correct...yesterday that is the way it worked.

We have no policy that determines when we started getting more than $2.00 hour and are you okay with that?

Sweet!

I think it should be in writing. I doubt you could find anyone that disagrees.

 

[GuinessGuy]

hats now.......white shirts too..........

Oh yeah.......pay clock starts at brake release........

 

[Splert]

I think it should be in writing. I doubt you could find anyone that disagrees.

The WRC for starters.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

The WRC for starters.

Are there any members of the WRC that haven't resigned yet? I thought they all quit, along with most of the PVC.

 

[Dave's kid]

Are there any members of the WRC that haven't resigned yet? I thought they all quit, along with most of the PVC.

Only 3 from the WRC resigned (G.P., B.E., and J.O.), no one else from the committee has resigned. So there's still about 18 on the committee still.

 

[Joblu]

Pay is standard brakes-off to brakes-on. No extra for the two minutes it takes to do W&B.

I takes you two minutes to do weight and balance? are you some sort of reeetard????

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

I takes you two minutes to do weight and balance? are you some sort of reeetard????

My mama says I'm just 'special'.

 

[Sailpilot]

Only 3 from the WRC resigned (G.P., B.E., and J.O.), no one else from the committee has resigned. So there's still about 18 on the committee still.

OK... is there any PILOTS that haven't resigned?

Thank god we still have those guys from finance, scheduling and the Chief Pilots on the WRC!?

They can now pass things and say it was voted in, unlike the FSM that was voted down by the WRC. When I say voted down... vote is an unusual term at JB. It didn't matter, Company implemented the FSM regardless starting May 1st.

Please let me vote for a Union! I've had both and JB's direct relationship is making me feel like I dropped the soap.

I have found that the guys most against a union at JB are pilots holding onto their seniority numbers and Union jobs at other airlines. Playing both sides of the fence and ready to jump back if the JB experiment comes crashing down.

 

[Sailpilot]

I forgot that the WRC is no longer relevant.

Following the vote of the WRC on the FSM which was against. The company started a new selected committee. WRC reveiw and implementation committee!

Wish I was making this stuff up... I'm not, they made a committee to review the committee. Feel free to laugh at us, Management does everytime they leave a Pocket session.:laugh:

 

[satpak77]

since we are talking pay, what is the "typical" annual salary for a new A320 Captain and say a 5-year FO

 

[uspilot]

5 Yr FO around $120,000 to $130,000....but that will end soon.

 

[Sailpilot]

5 Yr FO around $120,000 to $130,000....but that will end soon.

$130,000 for a 5 year A320 ($92 per hour)!? What are you smoking!

That is getting paid for 1413 hours!? How the he!! are you getting 413 hours of soft time after flying 1000 hours of block? Do you work 29 days a month?

*** be careful whom you get your info from. Some people seem to have a hard time with basic math?

Edit: Oops, forgot "blended rate"! 1401 hours of pay!:laugh:

 

[uspilot]

$130,000 for a 5 year A320 ($92 per hour)!? What are you smoking!

That is getting paid for 1413 hours!? How the he!! are you getting 413 hours of soft time after flying 1000 hours of block? Do you work 29 days a month?

*** be careful whom you get your info from. Some people seem to have a hard time with basic math?

Edit: Oops, forgot "blended rate"! 1401 hours of pay!:laugh:

Than why don't you please tell us what would 5 yr FO will make....

 

[say again]

Than why don't you please tell us what would 5 yr FO will make....

Go on airlinepilotcentral.com and look up the salaries for each airline.

As for Sailpilot's example. If you work the max of 1000 hrs at $92/hr... well, Im gonna let you figure this one out. :beer:

 

[waterski]

Go on airlinepilotcentral.com and look up the salaries for each airline.

As for Sailpilot's example. If you work the max of 1000 hrs at $92/hr... well, Im gonna let you figure this one out. :beer:

If you get PAID 1000 hrs you will get 94k including time and half.

 

[Chairman]

Hourly rate times 1000 hours dont always = Annual salary. At one said Regional that paid a lot of soft time at $63hr + Perdiem my 2007 W2= $115,000.

Chairman

 

[FBN0223]

Add three zeros to the hourly rate and you'll typically be very close to the annual salary.

 

[uspilot]

If you are a 5 yr FO you will be on 6 yr pay rate.....that rate is not $92 but it's 95.65 for the first 78 hours....anything above 78 is at $143.48....I credit around 90 to 95 hours a month....let's use 90 hour credit....78x95.65=7460 12x143.48=1721.76 7460+1721=$9181
$9181x12=$110,181 I also get redeye override of $13 in hour...Again for me Avg about $700 a month.. some guys don't like redeyes so they don't do them...so add $8400 a yr...$110,181+8400=$118,581 and that's for 90 hours a month....Credit....No RSA.....

 

[say again]

Hourly rate times 1000 hours dont always = Annual salary. At one said Regional that paid a lot of soft time at $63hr + Perdiem my 2007 W2= $115,000.

Chairman

Some don't count per diem towards their salary.

 

[say again]

If you are a 5 yr FO you will be on 6 yr pay rate.....that rate is not $92 but it's 95.65 for the first 78 hours....anything above 78 is at $143.48....I credit around 90 to 95 hours a month....let's use 90 hour credit....78x95.65=7460 12x143.48=1721.76 7460+1721=$9181
$9181x12=$110,181 I also get redeye override of $13 in hour...Again for me Avg about $700 a month.. some guys don't like redeyes so they don't do them...so add $8400 a yr...$110,181+8400=$118,581 and that's for 90 hours a month....Credit....No RSA.....

Seems like you got it down pat. Why did you ask your original question?:beer:

 

[Chairman]

Some don't count per diem towards their salary.

Ok Sorry $63 hr = $107,000 W2 2007

 

[say again]

Ok Sorry $63 hr = $107,000 W2 2007

Don't apologize. If I wanted to find out what i would make at an airline (minimum), I would take hourly rate x min guarantee. All other hrs, pay is not guaranteed until its done, so I don't count on it. Congrats on your W2. Were you expecting that at the beginning of the year?

 

[BeachBummer]

Some don't count per diem towards their salary.

Perdiem is for drinking! It is not salary...:beer: