World Airways

[zzyyxxtt]

Heard they may be hiring. Any truth?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

They probably have more info in the cargo section.

 

[MD11Drvr]

Nothing official but on paper and the unions position is that they need to. We hear they are waiting on a few things to line up before an announcement. They like LOR's if you know someone but that is not to say its a must.

Good Luck

 

[Flyer1015]

What are the schedules like? Sorry, rough question. But how many min days off, are lines built consecutive 16-17 on, then 13-14 off? Or more like 7 on, 7 off, etc etc.

Anything is helpful.

 

[nitefr8dog]

They probably have more info in the cargo section.

I thought the Cargo section was the Cargo section?

 

[zzyyxxtt]

They probably have more info in the cargo section.

I did not realize they were considered a cargo airline. Thanks for the info.

 

[UM#1]

There will most likely be hiring soon, either at the end of the year or early next year. Training is swamped for the next few months because they are training all the DC10 guys on the MD11 and 747. Also a bunch of junior guys are going from the MD11 to the 747. Current staffing levels leave almost 20 FO seats empty on the MD11 and the 747 is only staffed to 3 airframes and we will end up having 4 airframes by spring time(currently 2 on property and 2 in conversion).Also our new contract (starting October) with Jade is going to eat up a lot of crews as it is an around-the-World charter and requires staging of a bunch of crews. So I would guess we would need at least 30-40 new hires by next summer to meet staffing levels. The CP is currently not accepting LORs but told us that as soon as hiring is announced to send them in, I would say this is the best way to get an interview but people have interviewed without them in the past.

 

[Mr.B]

They probably have more info in the cargo section.

they fly more pax than freight

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

they fly more pax than freight

We do?

9 MD11 F
7 MD11
1 DC10 flying 1 not flying (Both going away)
2 B747-4 BDSF and 2 on the way

That makes 11 freighters to 8 pax birds and by Feb. it should be 13 freighters to 7 pax birds.

None the less, we are an ACMI company and eventhough we have long-term contracts and fly under supplimental 121 we are considered "charter."


Pt P

 

[Mr.B]

We do?

9 MD11 F
7 MD11
1 DC10 flying 1 not flying (Both going away)
2 B747-4 BDSF and 2 on the way

That makes 11 freighters to 8 pax birds and by Feb. it should be 13 freighters to 7 pax birds.

None the less, we are an ACMI company and eventhough we have long-term contracts and fly under supplimental 121 we are considered "charter."


Pt P

Sorry...when I quit it was more pax. Nonetheless, you're right- its charter under supplemental.

Spell check. Use it. Live it. Love it.

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

Yeah, I figured that was the case as it was when I hired on here, but we have been slowly transforming. Whether that will be a good thing, remains to be determined. If our pax birds are flying all AMC and the freighters are flying all private contracts, then pax side is probably generating more revenue.

I know, but I don't want to download another thing on my computer. I need to just stick with Google's Chrome browser or quit using big words.

Pt P

 

["v"]

I am probably way out of my league here, but anyone have a guess as to what experience and time would be competitive when they start hiring FO's?

 

[propilot]

Mins most likely 3000TT with 1000MTPIC. Competitive...who knows

 

[Sandstorm]

I am very interested in flying for World and just had some questions. I hope someone will answer them for me please. If so I would appreciate it.

1) Is there still a training contract, and if so, is it prorated?

2) How does reserve work?

3) What are schedules like? All one long stretch or is it possible to get split trips? What are min days off? Does everyone work the same amount of days or can you get lines with more days off based on seniority?

4) When you DH overseas, is it Business Class or Coach and how much does DH pay?

5) Any duty rigs / work rules or do you only credit block / DH time?

Thanks for the info.

 

[bigsky]

They do have a 2 year pro-rated training contract.
Reserve when you are home-based is not so bad. They call and you have 6 hours to call them back, and once they assign you a trip with your commercial to work, they have to give you 16 hours notice.....bottom line your not on a real short notice.
schedules vary....maybe sit home all month to be gone the entire time to 2 or three split schedules...Most bid lines are either 2 weeks on 2 off or a split into 2 trips.
Dead head is positive space, and normally full fare so we get lots of miles but unfortunately it is normally coach.
We get 4.8 hours of pay every day we are away from home, including the commute. Of course you get paid the higher of block, or THP but normally THP is greater.
With the 10's going away and many people swapping to 747, we have about 30% of the pilots needing training in next 9 months. I think we are going to desperately need pilots but the training is going to the stumbling block.

 

[Sandstorm]

Thanks for the quick response.

Can a pilot who is senior enough to hold a line bid reserve?

So for DHs you basically get min day pay? Or is there a ratio of the total DH (ie 1 hour pay for every 2 hours DH) where you are able to get more than 4.8 hours on longer DHs?

Forgive me, but when you say two weeks on, two off that is somewhat vague. For instance, my friend said he recently did a 19 day trip which would be more than two weeks on.

How many days off per month is the min?

I know you said schedules vary, so does that mean a senior pilot has the potential to work less and get more days off?

 

[Sandstorm]

One more question regarding the training contract. If you were to get furloughed and found another job, is it still binding?

 

[propilot]

Thanks for the quick response.

Can a pilot who is senior enough to hold a line bid reserve?

Yes


So for DHs you basically get min day pay? Or is there a ratio of the total DH (ie 1 hour pay for every 2 hours DH) where you are able to get more than 4.8 hours on longer DHs?

1 hr for every 2 hrs of deadhead

Forgive me, but when you say two weeks on, two off that is somewhat vague. For instance, my friend said he recently did a 19 day trip which would be more than two weeks on.

Sounds about right. In august I was out for 19 days then had the rest of the month off. This month my line had me out for 12, home for 12 then out for 6. There is no simple answer concerning our bidlines. They vary, but 2 on/ 2 off more of less is a good rule of thumb. The issue right now is we are short staffed, so some lines tend to go over the 2 weeks.

How many days off per month is the min?

12 with at least 6 days in one block.

I know you said schedules vary, so does that mean a senior pilot has the potential to work less and get more days off?

Maybe, not always. It's an individual choice. It's all about what you bid. Some people work more to make more money, some people bid shorter lines to spend more time at home with family. How much you work has little to do with senority and more to do with where you do or don't want to fly to, and what days off you want.

 

[propilot]

One more question regarding the training contract. If you were to get furloughed and found another job, is it still binding?

I believe the answer is no, but not 100% sure on that.

 

[Sandstorm]

Thanks again for all the info. I just thought of one more question if you would be so kind.

How much vacation time a year do you guys get and when does it increase? How does using vacation days work?

 

[propilot]

Thanks again for all the info. I just thought of one more question if you would be so kind.

How much vacation time a year do you guys get and when does it increase? How does using vacation days work?

<1: pro-rated

>1 - <5: 14 days
>5 -<10: 21 days
>10: 28 days

Bid and awarded based on Senority.​

 

[Sandstorm]

Thanks propilot. Yet one more please. Not sure how i forgot this one, but do you guys have flight benefits with other airlines? (Zeds, id90s, etc.) If so, are there any with any international carriers or are the agreements only with US airlines.

 

[CCDiscoB]

... two weeks on, two off that is somewhat vague. For instance, my friend said he recently did a 19 day trip which would be more than two weeks on.

Not sure if these were answered. Two on/two off is an easy way to say that you will get 12 days off a month. How you slice it is up to you. You want 7 off in first week and 5 off at end, sure. All 12 up front, sure. Whatever your seniorty can hold. BUT, if you bid the first half off one month and second half off the next, you will be avail to company for 30 days! Careful how you bid. However, for junior pilots, if you are assigned to work "back to back" then you can only be out 19 days.

How many days off per month is the min?

12 is the min. You can sell back 6 of those.

I know you said schedules vary, so does that mean a senior pilot has the potential to work less and get more days off?

Yes, I have an easy sched this month, not that I'm Mr Senior by any stretch. But that won't last. We're going to be very busy this fall and winter until we hire.

Can a pilot who is senior enough to hold a line bid reserve?

?? Is there an airline out there that doesn't allow senior pilots to bid reserve? Must be...our reserve goes senior. 76 hrs and home (at times).

 

[CRJCptn]

Another question for the World folks. How does parking work at your home airport? Paid by company or you?

 

[MD11Drvr]

Unfortunately they do not pay for parking. Some are able to get employee passes at their home airport while others are working deals with the local FBO or off site parking lot. Deduct it from your taxes and keep in mind how nice it is not to have to jump seat and have the expense of a crash pad with 14 other swinging harries.

 

[CRJCptn]

thanks for the reply. the home base is a huge benifit either way. one more question... any Wold people with insight on MSP as far as parking, etc???

 

[propilot]

thanks for the reply. the home base is a huge benifit either way. one more question... any Wold people with insight on MSP as far as parking, etc???

Employee parking is $48/month, parking at the Humphrey terminal. Problem is that there is a 10 continuous day limit. They didn't seem to be able to comprehend my situation and weren't too willing to make an exception to the rule, so they don't get my money. My wife drops me off and picks me up.

 

[CRJCptn]

Thanks for the info. I guess need I need to get a wife... lol

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

Thanks for the info. I guess need I need to get a wife... lol

Monthly parking costs can't even be compared to the cost of your typical American wife, from what I've heard.

Not having to commute and living WHERE YOU WANT, is the best thing since sliced cheese!!

Pt P

 

[JJET44]

One more question regarding the training contract. If you were to get furloughed and found another job, is it still binding?

Holly Crap! How S**ty of a company would they be if they made you pay them back after that? I would think that NO court in this country would alow the contract to be held up under those circumstanses.

A few years ago I signed a training contract with their sister company and walked out 8 months later because the place sucked. I asked to be released from the contract and they agreed.