Does Flex pay as well as NetJets

[Club ORD FO]

I'm on the 15 day. Simple reason - the least amount of days I can work. If they had a 12 day schedule, I'd bid it. As I said earlier - quality of life is my main goal.

Flexjet has a 12 day schedule. its niiiiiiiiiiice

 

[rajflyboy]

+1 Jack. 13% is a pipe dream. I haven't done an extended day in over a year and homey won't be getting paid holiday, hourly, etc. even AFTER November.

Exactly

Most of us don't have special LOA's that give us a percentage of OT added to our pay

when the mainline pilot makes no where near that amount

 

[gutshotdraw]

I'm confused. As far as I know the LOAs, while allowing you to keep your higher base pay, do not exclude you from O/T, holiday, after midnight etc as prescribed in the contract. Am I missing something?

I'll explain it over a beer or three sometime. It's...."complicated." Even a friend of mine who is a union poo-bah doesn't quite get it.

As for extended days, there haven't been many to go around anyway and the one time scheduling asked me to do a planned extended trip I politely declined since I'm not hip to scheduled overtime when guys are on furlough.

Sorry if this hijacked a Flex thread...

 

[jonjuan]

Flexjet has a 12 day schedule. its niiiiiiiiiiice

Better than avantairs new 14/14 schedule. Thanks, B19.

 

[Blueridgeflyer]

Seems Flex guys get their preferred air carrier more, at least the ones based at DFW. I always notice their pilots boarding in the Advantage Platinum group while I board with the lowly priority access Gold.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Flexjet has a 12 day schedule. its niiiiiiiiiiice

Yeah, it's what you have to work to maintain your 7/7 schedule after a vacation bid period. That or get your teeth kicked in with a 16 day line working 11 out of the remaining 15 days surrounding the vacation.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Seems Flex guys get their preferred air carrier more, at least the ones based at DFW. I always notice their pilots boarding in the Advantage Platinum group while I board with the lowly priority access Gold.

The DFW FO's seem to get and maintain Platinum status on AA easier than the captains. For whatever reason, Flex seems determined to get their captains on cheaper airlines, and they have more trouble maintaining platinum status.

 

[CL300Pilot]

Really? I am a captain and just hit platinum yet again.

The DFW FO's seem to get and maintain Platinum status on AA easier than the captains. For whatever reason, Flex seems determined to get their captains on cheaper airlines, and they have more trouble maintaining platinum status.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Good for you. Many DFW captains struggle to get it. Weird but true.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Better than avantairs new 14/14 schedule. Thanks, B19.

Thanks for what?

 

[ArtVandalay]

Yeah one thing you can do at Flexjet that you can't do at Netjets is get a 12 day line. You can also work 17 days as well. I don't know what the point is about getting into a pi$$ing match about pay. We do make more than Netjets but its because our yield is higher. In the end, our w2's will be higher but; the immediate Netjet response is, "yeah but our daily rate is higher." So, my point is that we all make decent money. All I care about in the end is how much time I can spend at home and last year I was home for 209 days. My bet is no one at Netjets can do that in their schedule.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Yeah one thing you can do at Flexjet that you can't do at Netjets is get a 12 day line. You can also work 17 days as well. I don't know what the point is about getting into a pi$$ing match about pay. We do make more than Netjets but its because our yield is higher. In the end, our w2's will be higher but; the immediate Netjet response is, "yeah but our daily rate is higher." So, my point is that we all make decent money. All I care about in the end is how much time I can spend at home and last year I was home for 209 days. My bet is no one at Netjets can do that in their schedule.

You're right. I can't do 209 nights home on my schedule. It's more like 235. And that doesn't count the layovers in my home city (a popular destination for us all) when I slept in my own bed instead of a hotel.

 

[gunfyter]

213 at home.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Just in case Art wants proof.

7 and 7 schedule = 26 possible tours a year.

Minus 4 tours for vacation = 22 tours a year.

22 tours times 6 nights in a hotel = 132

Two tours are training and are only 5 nights in a hotel = 130

365 - 130 = 235

For giggles, I went back and looked at mid-tour layovers at home. I'm at 3 so far this year which is way down from years past (thanks in part to the Bungler-in-Chief and his idiotic comments about my domicile).

 

[Pervis]

Art, all those bath houses you frequent don't count for overnights at home.