Comair is done

[Gobi Gred]

Very sorry for the Comair employees today. At one time it looked like that Comair would someday be an independent airline. I still remember their ads in USA today and wondering what they would look like in 10 years. Then came the Delta buyout and the strike. It never seemed the same after that. Good luck to all Comair employees!

 

[WayBack]

What does this do to that "merger assessment" fee you guys had to pay into?

 

[Capi_Cafre']

This is what it is all about: driving costs down, and not just at Comair.

Coming soon, to an airline near you!

Yep, it sounds like the same thing is happening at Horizon, the only other airline to capitalize on Comair's success at the table. At least Comair will still have some viable airframes left after the dust settles. Horizon's doubly screwed trying to compete with an all-turboprop fleet. I just jumpseated home from the bay area the other day on a Dash 8. I'm sure that's going to go really well for them.

 

[WSurf]

This sucks! Piedmont/ALG went through this..... 110 Airframes down to 44! Good Luck Comair Folks. We at Piedmont know all to well.

 

[79%N1]

This sucks! Piedmont/ALG went through this..... 110 Airframes down to 44! Good Luck Comair Folks. We at Piedmont know all to well.

At least a lot of them (allot as another poster spelled it today) got to go to Mid Atlantic as that was happening, a place to thin the ranks. Where are the Comair folks going to go? Most majors are still not hiring or are done for now, and Net Jets is no longer an out option for people escaping 121.

This sucks for those guys, and even the Freedumb guys.

 

[at7driver]

Good luck guys

 

[WSurf]

At least a lot of them (allot as another poster spelled it today) got to go to Mid Atlantic as that was happening, a place to thin the ranks. Where are the Comair folks going to go? Most majors are still not hiring or are done for now, and Net Jets is no longer an out option for people escaping 121.

This sucks for those guys, and even the Freedumb guys.

True, it did help with some of the pain.

 

[Bugsmasher Plus]

This is not about concessions. This is not about the strike either. This is about Delta trying to lose lots of "unwanted" 50s. We are the only place they can take them from penalty free. I think that is it. Now I am not saying they won't try to also get concessions out of this. They will. The memo alludes (elludes? whatever. deal with it! Mitt's going to question my intelligence.) to that fact. I do think that Delta sees definite "bonuses" in all of this.

1. We happen to have the oldest 50s.
2. We have the most senior/highest pay roll (easy there! ...relatively speaking)
3. They can sleep better by telling themselves we did it to ourselves during the strike.
4. They can look like they are really tough on unions. "You want some of the Comair treatment too!?"

This was going to happen period. We could/should say we will offer them %50 off on all pay rates if we can keep all the a/c. They would go out in the hallway and not have a freaking clue what to do next. Because those aircraft are going away period and we all know it. The only hope is that not as many or not as soon. I for one won't give up a penny just to prolong the inevitable a few months. This is just "business." Save a few bucks while you can and try to get a job while your "current."

Good luck everyone

I'm sorry, this is indeed all about the strike. Comair has not been able to compete since that CBA was signed and has lost all subsequent growth as a result while others have flourished.

One of the major points behind the strike was to make Comair a career rather than a traditional stopping point on the way to a major for pilots. As a devoted former Comair employee who lived through the strike, there is no aspect of the strike that hasn't manifested itself throughout the years as "lesser" regional airlines have flourished providing long term job security through growth opportunities because they were cost effective.

I'm heartbroken to see this happen there.. so sad to see such a great airline hanging on by a thread. Also, if anybody thinks that the unions are going to "play nice" and give concessions, it's not going to happen and that will probably be the end of the company.

 

[regionaltard]

One of the major points behind the strike was to make Comair a career rather than a traditional stopping point on the way to a major for pilots. As a devoted former Comair employee who lived through the strike, there is no aspect of the strike that hasn't manifested itself throughout the years as "lesser" regional airlines have flourished providing long term job security through growth opportunities because they were cost effective.

The really sad thing is that there would probably be exactly the same number of small jet airframes flying today if everyone had stood up and fought for Comair money. Instead, we had the Freedom debacle and the beginning of what someone much funnier than me called the "SJS Prodigy Air" era.

 

[Flyprdu]

Unfortunately for you guys, Comair is first in a case study of the Regional Airline model. We now know that without a complete revamping of fleet or business model, a regional airline has a lifespan of approximately 20 years.

 

[Jetjockey]

This will eventually happen to most of the 50 seat regional jets. The push is towards bigger airframes, 90 seats and up. Even the 70 seat jets have shown their economic vulnerability. The squeeze is on, and has been for the last 2 years. Economics pushing out the smaller airframes getting met by scope clauses on the other end.

 

[Bull]

Qatar Airways

Very sorry to hear about Comair latest future news, I am a former Comair Pilot it was a great place to work once upon a time, I have a lot respect for those who are still hanging on for some miracle to happen, for those interested here is some usefull information on Qatar Airways.

Flight Deck Crew



Qatar Airways is one of the world’s fastest-growing network airlines, taking delivery of one new Boeing 777 every month, with plans to operate a mostly wide-body fleet of at least 110 aircraft in the future. We are soaring to greater heights by way of rapid expansion, hiring quality people and by earning a 5-star status through the quality service which we deliver to our customers.
Our airline is based in Doha, a modern commercial centre and growing tourist destination. Qatar Airways Flight Operations sets a priority on safety and high standards of all its Flight Deck Crew.
None of Qatar Airways success could have been possible without the hard work of our highly –professional pilots. Qatar Airways is committed to an ongoing program of hiring highly motivated professionals to deliver the best levels of Flight Operations.
We offer tremendous opportunities for pilots in all areas of Flight Operations. Each individual will be given the opportunity to develop their career through numerous in-house training courses and state- of-the art training equipment.
To be considered to join a truly international group of pilots who place priority on safety, performance and customer service and who strive for excellence in everything they do, then you will need to meet the minimum requirements listed in the “requirements” section.
As a result of our current growth plans, and if you think you’ve got what it takes to join our pilot workforce:


Please include a copy of your license & ratings, passport, medical certificate and your logbook showing most recent entries.

Flight Deck Crew Benefits



In return for joining one of the youngest and fastest growing airlines in the world, the following benefits package can be expected.

• Open ended contract.

Captains

• Tax free salary of approximately $9500 USD (assuming 70 block hours).

First Officers

• Tax free salary of approximately $6600 USD (assuming 70 block hours).

Ancillary Benefits

• Company provided accommodation.
• Transport allowance of approximately $410 USD.
• Utility allowance.
• Meal allowance whilst on layovers.
• School fees subsidy .
• Family medical insurance.
• Comprehensive life insurance.
• Loss of licence insurance.
• End of service gratuity.

Please include a copy of your license & ratings, passport, medical certificate and your logbook showing most recent entries.

First Officers

• Minimum of 1,000 hours in one of the following categories:
  
  - Multi Crew, Multi Engine Jet Aircraft
  - Command Turbo-Prop above 20,000kg MTOW
  - High Performance Military Jets​
• Valid ICAO ATPL or Frozen ATPL
• Valid Instrument Rating
• Valid Class 1 Medical.
• ICAO English Proficiency Minimum level 4.
• Age below 50 years at date of joining
• Experience Commensurate With Age

 

[tiffanytaylor]

Very sorry to hear about Comair latest future news, I am a former Comair Pilot it was a great place to work once upon a time, I have a lot respect for those who are still hanging on for some miracle to happen, for those interested here is some usefull information on Qatar Airways.

Flight Deck Crew



Qatar Airways is one of the world’s fastest-growing network airlines, taking delivery of one new Boeing 777 every month, with plans to operate a mostly wide-body fleet of at least 110 aircraft in the future. We are soaring to greater heights by way of rapid expansion, hiring quality people and by earning a 5-star status through the quality service which we deliver to our customers.
Our airline is based in Doha, a modern commercial centre and growing tourist destination. Qatar Airways Flight Operations sets a priority on safety and high standards of all its Flight Deck Crew.
None of Qatar Airways success could have been possible without the hard work of our highly –professional pilots. Qatar Airways is committed to an ongoing program of hiring highly motivated professionals to deliver the best levels of Flight Operations.
We offer tremendous opportunities for pilots in all areas of Flight Operations. Each individual will be given the opportunity to develop their career through numerous in-house training courses and state- of-the art training equipment.
To be considered to join a truly international group of pilots who place priority on safety, performance and customer service and who strive for excellence in everything they do, then you will need to meet the minimum requirements listed in the “requirements” section.
As a result of our current growth plans, and if you think you’ve got what it takes to join our pilot workforce:


Please include a copy of your license & ratings, passport, medical certificate and your logbook showing most recent entries.

Flight Deck Crew Benefits



In return for joining one of the youngest and fastest growing airlines in the world, the following benefits package can be expected.

• Open ended contract.

Captains

• Tax free salary of approximately $9500 USD (assuming 70 block hours).

First Officers

• Tax free salary of approximately $6600 USD (assuming 70 block hours).

Ancillary Benefits

• Company provided accommodation.
• Transport allowance of approximately $410 USD.
• Utility allowance.
• Meal allowance whilst on layovers.
• School fees subsidy .
• Family medical insurance.
• Comprehensive life insurance.
• Loss of licence insurance.
• End of service gratuity.

Please include a copy of your license & ratings, passport, medical certificate and your logbook showing most recent entries.

First Officers

• Minimum of 1,000 hours in one of the following categories:
  - Multi Crew, Multi Engine Jet Aircraft
  - Command Turbo-Prop above 20,000kg MTOW
  - High Performance Military Jets​
• Valid ICAO ATPL or Frozen ATPL
• Valid Instrument Rating
• Valid Class 1 Medical.
• ICAO English Proficiency Minimum level 4.
• Age below 50 years at date of joining
• Experience Commensurate With Age

For my husband, do you have to live in their domicile/country. I know with Emirates you have to live in Dubai. I didn't read the article yet so apologize if you think me ignorant. I will refer this to him. Thank you.

 

[cmrflyer]

Yes you do.

Check it out on pprune.com, seems like a lovely place to work.

 

[relief tube]

done?

There'll still be 44 planes. that's not done. its over half, but it ain't "done."

You should work for one of the 24 hour news outlets. You'd fit right in.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

done?

There'll still be 44 planes. that's not done. its over half, but it ain't "done."

You should work for one of the 24 hour news outlets. You'd fit right in.

It's done for quite a few of them, but not the 600 top guys....

 

[jumppilot1000]

So who is next on the DCI 50 seat chopping block? Freedom is done, Comair losing a bunch, and didn't ASA trade some in for 700/900's?

 

[brokedash]

So who is next on the DCI 50 seat chopping block? Freedom is done, Comair losing a bunch, and didn't ASA trade some in for 700/900's?

9E/EV/OO all face the same axe.

 

[Bull]

Yes you do.

Check it out on pprune.com, seems like a lovely place to work.

Hay probably not the best place to work in the Gulf but it sure is better then being on the street and collecting un-employment! Emirates will not even look at CRJ drivers, Etihad only hiring type rated pilots. Despite all the negative nonsence on pprune Qatar is actually offering CRJ drivers a chance to earn a type rating and wide body international expirence. Where else can you get a job rigt now in today's economy with only CRJ time? You got any bright ideas? in order to help those who will be effected by furloughs?

 

[WayBack]

You got any bright ideas? in order to help those who will be effected by furloughs?

No worries, ALPA is going to get all those furloughed pilots new jobs.