Comair Gets Axed In Half

[JECKEL]

Over the next two years Comair will cut 49 50-seat aircraft from its fleet bringing its total number of aircraft down from 93 to 44 by the end of 2012.

First wave of furloughs are expected to bring in Spring of 2011.

 

[SLUF4]

Where did you obtain this information?

 

[SEVEN]

Where did you obtain this information?

http://www.startribune.com/business/101968743.html?elr=KArks:DCiU1OiP:DiiUiacyKUUr

 

[SEVEN]

The writing has been on the wall for some time. It's too bad. Good luck to all the employees who will be affected by this.

 

[SLUF4]

Yeah just read the letter in the other thread. Sorry-that one hurts to read

 

[Cpt Oveur]

How are they more competitive with fewer aircraft?

That's a real shame, especially to all those who just got recalled there. Will they continue to have a DTW base?

 

[tiffanytaylor]

Over the next two years Comair will cut 49 50-seat aircraft from its fleet bringing its total number of aircraft down from 93 to 44 by the end of 2012.

First wave of furloughs are expected to bring in Spring of 2011.

I was hired in 2002. Can I expect to be furlouged in the Spring of 2011? Please advise.

Thank you.

 

[tiffanytaylor]

Yeah just read the letter in the other thread. Sorry-that one hurts to read

It's ok. Sometimes we react first before reading anything. I react first, then think, and suffer the consequences after. It sucks when that happens.

 

[B727FA]

Tiff, you might be able to get a good idea on Epic by seeing when the draw down is slated to start (ie, how many airframes per quarter) and then taking approx 5 FA's per frame. With 50 leaving the fleet (I know it's 49, but go for easy math) plan on 250 minimum to be furloughed. Start at the bottom of the SN list and work up 250 numbers. Even though you'll still have approx 50 planes in the fleet, remember, the 700/900 takes 2 FA's so it's 10 FA's to one a/c. Expect to see approx 500 FA's on the SN list when it's all over.

 

[tiffanytaylor]

Tiff, you might be able to get a good idea on Epic by seeing when the draw down is slated to start (ie, how many airframes per quarter) and then taking approx 5 FA's per frame. With 50 leaving the fleet (I know it's 49, but go for easy math) plan on 250 minimum to be furloughed. Start at the bottom of the SN list and work up 250 numbers. Even though you'll still have approx 50 planes in the fleet, remember, the 700/900 takes 2 FA's so it's 10 FA's to one a/c. Expect to see approx 500 FA's on the SN list when it's all over.

I was hired in 2002, so I think I'm toast. We only have 28 70/90s don't we? If they offer voluntary furloughs and I can get unemployment as well, I'll do that. It'll help save others who don't want to lose their jobs.

 

[JECKEL]

I was hired in 2002. Can I expect to be furloughed in the Spring of 2011? Please advise.

Comair plans on getting rid of 19 airframes next year and 30 in 2012.
If I had to guess, and I hate to because these numbers are real people, but a guess would be somewhere in 2004.


As the list stands today, and no one retires or quits in the next two years, and strictly looking at 10 pilots per airframe, the most junior pilot to remain would be a hire date of May 1999.

This, however, will not be the case as people will retire and people will quit to do other things, go other places.

I expect that the seniority list will be fluid over the next year and a half as Captains with 16 to 17 years at Comair stare straight at that right seat they will be sitting in with the enormous pay cut that will come with it. ($95 down to $43 and sitting on reserve)

Who will stay and who will go? For some it will be a choice and unfortunately for others they will not have that luxury.

Sorry Tiff. This comment was about pilots and not Flight Attendants. I just realized that. I don't know how the FA line will be drawn.

 

[captain822]

What a sad day. I wish you guys the best of luck and hope something else opens up for you that's better than you had imagined. I know how much sacrifice is involved in this career and the horrible pay and time away from our families makes it even worse. When one door closes another one always opens.

 

[DX Rick]

This, however, will not be the case as people will retire and people will quit to do other things, go other places.

I expect that the seniority list will be fluid over the next year and a half as Captains with 16 to 17 years at Comair stare straight at that right seat they will be sitting in with the enormous pay cut that will come with it. ($95 down to $43 and sitting on reserve)

I agree. They're shaking the hell out of the tree to see who hangs on.

 

[tiffanytaylor]

I was hired in 2002. Can I expect to be furloughed in the Spring of 2011? Please advise.

Comair plans on getting rid of 19 airframes next year and 30 in 2012.
If I had to guess, and I hate to because these numbers are real people, but a guess would be somewhere in 2004.


As the list stands today, and no one retires or quits in the next two years, and strictly looking at 10 pilots per airframe, the most junior pilot to remain would be a hire date of May 1999.

This, however, will not be the case as people will retire and people will quit to do other things, go other places.

I expect that the seniority list will be fluid over the next year and a half as Captains with 16 to 17 years at Comair stare straight at that right seat they will be sitting in with the enormous pay cut that will come with it. ($95 down to $43 and sitting on reserve)

Who will stay and who will go? For some it will be a choice and unfortunately for others they will not have that luxury.

Sorry Tiff. This comment was about pilots and not Flight Attendants. I just realized that. I don't know how the FA line will be drawn.

So if my husband was hired in 2002, he would be axed right?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

So if my husband was hired in 2002, he would be axed right?

Does your husband know you can't figure out that 2002 is 3 years after 1999?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I was hired in 2002, so I think I'm toast. We only have 28 70/90s don't we? If they offer voluntary furloughs and I can get unemployment as well, I'll do that. It'll help save others who don't want to lose their jobs.

Blessing in disguise. It's your lucky break, lady. Leave the hellhole occupation you call FA and do something with yourself besides slaving over ungrateful passengers and pilfering small bottles of liquor.

 

[xrated]

Does your husband know you can't figure out that 2002 is 3 years after 1999?

You're a ****************************** BAG Amish!!!

 

[CX880]

wHO is going to get Comairs flying? Skywest or ASA?

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

If they offer voluntary furloughs and I can get unemployment as well, I'll do that.

If you do that, you will be committing fraud, in which case I hope your real name is not Tiffany Taylor. You can't collect unemployment if you VOLUNTARILY give up your job you clown.

 

[imacdog]

If you do that, you will be committing fraud, in which case I hope your real name is not Tiffany Taylor. You can't collect unemployment if you VOLUNTARILY give up your job you clown.

That's not entirely accurate.