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Varmint

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Did anyone attend the road show today (monday)? If so, were interview slots offered after the presentation as they did a couple of years ago?

Thanks.
 
I went to the Miami road show yesterday, had been to one in Chicago 2 years ago (or so). I received an email from Emirates a short while back stating they had dropped their 55 ton requirement (see below), so I went hopeful to secure an interview as they offered in previous Info Sessions. The dog and pony show they put up is really pathetic, all they talk about is how good they are, how they sponsor so many teams/events worldwide, how beautiful their new headquarters is, how beautiful their housing/villas are, etc. They say nothing in regards to being overworked, making your life impossible to take vacation, long upgrade times, etc, in essence, reality. I have 2 friends at Emirates, and it is definitely NOT like they picture it, but it still is pretty decent.

Well it turns out they dropped their 55T requirement to 30 tons. That directly contradicts what the email says. Somehow I have 8000 hours in state of the art business jets, international experience, 5 type ratings, IP experience, yet I am not worthy to fly a 777??

Anyways, I mention this in case some are going to these sessions hoping to get an interview based on the dropped 55T requirement. Don't waste your time. I stood up in the middle of the info session, questioned the recruiters why 30T when I have email in my iPhone on hand saying weight requirement dropped altogether, she says rudely she doesn't know where that email came from. I told them they are liars and walk out of the room. Made me waste a morning for nothing.
 
Thanks for the update. I guess I'll put off going to the road shows this round, since my RJ time is mostly 50 seaters 2500 and only 800 70 seater time. Were there many people at the open house?
 
I went to the one in Houston. Very informative about the company and the lifestyle that you can expect. As far as I know, there weren't any offers for interviews.
 
Yeah very informative, like what the nazi's told the Jews about "relocation". LOL. They paint a glossy picture, the reality is somewhat different. Please do your research and come with a very open mind and you won't be disappointed.
 
Thanks for the info guys. I heard that they pulled the rug switch on the MEM info session and moved it to a different location within an hour of it starting. That must have been great for those who were flying in.
 
Ever heard of the saying "its their train set"?

They set the standard they want or that the industry dictates. They have come off the 55t requirement down to as someone stated 30t. Frankly it is silly but its "their train set"!!

To me there really is not much difference between the RJs whether it be a 200/700/900, 135/145 bla bla. And no a 900 is not a "heavy" as one RJ pilot tried to tell me.

It would be far easier for an RJ pilot to transition to a 77 than a 72 or DC10 guy who has never been exposed to glass.

Also do you actually think they are going to say,

We are going to work you to death!

Give you lower quaility housing!

Decrease your benefit package year over year!

Of course not!!!
 
pprune.org has the most info on EK.

cliff
LFW
 
Hi!

From what I was told and read, the minimums have changed a lot, up and down...much of the mins are NOT posted on the site. My application has not been rejected (some were, right away), and I don't have 2000 over 30 tonnes. I DO have over 4000 and almost 4000 jet, and SOME heavy time.

I would not be surprised if some in HR are saying "X" are the mins, and others saying "Y", on the same day. They are very busy, and I believe that they are having a more and more difficult time finding suitable applicants. If you are interested, apply. If they say "NO", wait a month, and apply again.

cliff
LFW
 
Cliff - That is the best attitude to have. Way too often I have found inconsistencies like you're speaking about in airline recruiting departments. Keep on plugging away, good things will happen. The right guy will see you CV one of these days.....

FCN
 
I went to the Memphis show and by the time I got home I had another email giving the correct location of the show ( ha ha ) and the mins had dropped any weight requirements. Maybe I will have a chance now. My Lear is far less than 55 or 30 tons.
 
aa73 said:
what the heII is "9E"? AIRLINE NAMES PEOPLE!!!! not codes!
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Pinnacle. But that's not the point. The point was that CRJ-200 pilots (gross weight less than 30 tons. 53k max ~ 24 tons) have gotten hired at Emirates this year. At least 6 pilots from Pinnacle alone.
 
Flyer1015 said:
Pinnacle. But that's not the point. The point was that CRJ-200 pilots (gross weight less than 30 tons. 53k max ~ 24 tons) have gotten hired at Emirates this year. At least 6 pilots from Pinnacle alone.
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Just curious, where do most of the CRJ pilots go in terms of fleet? Are most going to the 777? Are any of these Pinnacle pilots getting the Airbus?
 
I just looked at the EK Seniority list, the last 2 guys hired from the U.S. on it are on the BUS but only 1 of the previous 10 before that went on the BUS, the other 9 went to the B777. This numbers go back to October of 2009 and start as recent as July 2010.
Like I said before, things here change from week to week, my friend who was put on the short-list with CRJ200 and Citation X time was removed from the short-list 1 month later because of the type of aircraft he had time on. Many of the Americans who came here 2 or 3 years ago that have only CRJ or ERJ time are not being allowed to move to the A380 while newer guys with maybe less time but larger aircraft time are being moved to the A380. Someone said to me the other day that EK's Insurance company may be behind the change in minimums, other people say that it has to do with the problems some of the new hires are having flying the larger aircraft, others say that it is the fact that EK might have to lower the requirements for upgrades to Captain, we have no clue, stories change here by the week and by the nationality of the person you are talking to. I hope this helps some of you.

uba757
 
I can't understand why management people think that RJ drivers cannot fly larger aircraft. It makes no sense. To me its all the same.....and airplane is an airplane!!
I went from the CRJ to the 747 classic as did my other colleagues.
 
That's not exactly true about the 380. I know of at least three U.S. RJ drivers that arrived here between the last two and three years that have gone to the 380. They are getting so many of them that you will be able to go. They are even debating direct entry first officers into the 380. They are not allowing it now, but it is in discussion. Bottom line is they will not let an airplane sit. They are letting RJ drivers onto the 380 (after flying the 330 and 340 for a year) and are considering DEFO on the 380, time will tell on the DEFO.
 
Is there really a BIG difference between flying an A340-500 and an A380 for the former RJ drivers? They are both highly-automated, large airplanes. That seems a bit ridiculous to me if true...
 
So, is life over there as bad as everyone makes it out to be on the (complaint) boards or is it tolerable?

Granted this US Regional FO bit is a job, but barely...
 
uba757 said:
I just looked at the EK Seniority list, the last 2 guys hired from the U.S. on it are on the BUS but only 1 of the previous 10 before that went on the BUS, the other 9 went to the B777. This numbers go back to October of 2009 and start as recent as July 2010.
Like I said before, things here change from week to week, my friend who was put on the short-list with CRJ200 and Citation X time was removed from the short-list 1 month later because of the type of aircraft he had time on. Many of the Americans who came here 2 or 3 years ago that have only CRJ or ERJ time are not being allowed to move to the A380 while newer guys with maybe less time but larger aircraft time are being moved to the A380. Someone said to me the other day that EK's Insurance company may be behind the change in minimums, other people say that it has to do with the problems some of the new hires are having flying the larger aircraft, others say that it is the fact that EK might have to lower the requirements for upgrades to Captain, we have no clue, stories change here by the week and by the nationality of the person you are talking to. I hope this helps some of you.

uba757
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I wouldn't think transitioning from an RJ to a widebody would be that hard after some thorough simulator training. Give me a break, the flight deck technology is not too different. Sure, transitioning from complete analog to the 777/Airbus could be difficult - but glass won't scare RJ pilots. Getting used to the size might be interesting at first, but most of us had the same issue when transitioning from light twins to RJs. It takes awhile but you get used to it. That said, these airplanes really are quite large:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Emir...41763/L/&sid=f6b459bc5ba10ce5da4db6eacc1a2eb3

and the gargantuan A380:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Emir...41762/L/&sid=f6b459bc5ba10ce5da4db6eacc1a2eb3

That A380 looks like a monster aircraft able to swallow an RJ... Anyone out there currently flying for EK have any comments about transitioning from RJs to 777s/Airbuses? Easy or challenging process?
 
Regional4life, 5 of my neighbors, all have been with EK for 2+ years and all 5 with only RJ time, were told that they are not eligible to go to the A380 yet. They are flying the A330's/A340's and were told they had to wait until completing 3 years with EK to move over to the A380.

uba757
 
Here's the requirements for transfer,

To be eligible for a transfer to the A380 the following
minimum requirements must be met:
i. 3000 Jet hrs on an aircraft with MTOW of 55 tonnes
or more of which 1,500 must be on any EK Aircraft
Type and;​

ii. 2 years with Emirates (on any aircraft type).

Also, while not applicable yet.

In circumstances where there is a predicted unavailability of
eligible First Officers within Emirates who meet the above
experience requirements, Emirates may consider the
recruitment of Direct Entry First Officers to the A380. The
minimum requirements for these positions are:
i. 4000 total hours.
ii. 3000 Jet hours with MTOW of 55 tonnes or more of
which 2,000 hours must be on A330/A340 or other
wide-body jet.
A330 / A340 and A380 type rated pilots will normally be given​

preference over pilots with other wide-body jet experience.

3000hrs > 55T would normally be the limiting factor rather than the 2 years for RJ drivers.
 
johnsonrod said:
I wouldn't think transitioning from an RJ to a widebody would be that hard after some thorough simulator training. Give me a break, the flight deck technology is not too different.
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No, it really isn't that difficult at all but it is their sand box (literally) you play only if they want you to play.
 
Has anyone who interviewed in last two or three years and got shot down had a second chance at an interview yet?
 
There is an official policy...think it WAS 24 mos, and reduced a while ago to 12 mos....not sure.

cliff
LFW
 
I interviewed in jan of 08 and just went to the memphis road show. I am waiting to hear from them. I would like a second chance but have not received it yet. I hope they will at least tell me they are not going to give me a second chance rather than not contact me at all.
 

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