the unfathomable:regional crew attempted takeoff with one engine turning

[realmanofgenius]

this morning out of GSO our erj 145 crew flying us en route to O Hare took a takeoff clearance on runway 23. took it on the roll and lined up, applied full power. within seconds the flight spoilers deployed. at the exit, i noticed along with another pax, and a another major airline pilot, that #1 was spooling up. we all heard it. we confronted the crew at the gate. they missed it and they confessed. I called the feds. the insanity stops. this is unfathomable..

the tower said they didn't mention it...go figure...but one thing is clear ..they took the runway, lined up, applied full power to two, and then aborted, the spoilers deployed...


this story may break in the next few days... #1 was not running......

 

[realmanofgenius]

I have contacted a major newspaper reporter who covered the colgan crash....this is for the families of the victims of colgan 3407 and comair out of Lex...people don't need to die on order for change to occur. we fix this now. a few bad apples will ruin the bushel

 

[DCAA320]

You contacted the Feds, what an ahole you are.

The crew learned from this. They are better for it. Not the ideal way to learn.

You have NO idea the crap treatment, the crap schedules the regional guys go through. Not an excuse, but contributing factor.

Go screw yourself

 

[ackattacker]

You'd make a good Fed. By which I mean you're a self-righteous ******************************. Karma is a b**tch. They were unsafe but not so unsafe that you turned down the free ride to O'Hare, huh?

 

[Kharma Police]

this morning out of GSO our erj 145 crew flying us en route to O Hare took a takeoff clearance on runway 23. took it on the roll and lined up, applied full power. within seconds the flight spoilers deployed. at the exit, i noticed along with another pax, and a another major airline pilot, that #1 was spooling up. we all heard it. we confronted the crew at the gate. they missed it and they confessed. I called the feds. the insanity stops. this is unfathomable..

the tower said they didn't mention it...go figure...but one thing is clear ..they took the runway, lined up, applied full power to two, and then aborted, the spoilers deployed...


this story may break in the next few days... #1 was not running......

Stool pigeon, rat, snitch A$$hole..........

 

[Lynxman]

Looks like TSA.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Up to 48 other folks weren't on a free ride and had the reasonable expectation that the crew knew both engines were required to take off. If this story is true, then the crew in question earned their trip through the spanking machine.

 

[say again]

Id like to hear a legitimate source verify this. Until then, I'm giving the original poster absolutely no credibility, just for the fact of being a complete POS rat dbag!!

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Here's how I know you're a bad person:


1) You go to the feds after this? Are you insane?

2) You post this to FI looking for support from fellow pilots...about ratting other pilots out on a mistake.

3) Your avatar....it has NO ass at all...dem pancakes.

4) You went to the media? Boy...be glad I'm cycling off my sterons and in a good mood!

5) You've GOT to be trollin'

 

[njcapt]

I have contacted a major newspaper reporter who covered the colgan crash....this is for the families of the victims of colgan 3407 and comair out of Lex...people don't need to die on order for change to occur. we fix this now. a few bad apples will ruin the bushel

You gleefully squealed it to the feds and, worst of all, the press instead of to the airline. How long were you able to resist the urge to go rub one out while replaying the events of the morning in your defective little brain? They F'd up. They need to answer to the disciplinary and safety process at the airline they work for. Not to TMZ, you jacka$$.

You suck.

 

[rumrunner300]

Here's how I know you're a bad person:


1) You go to the feds after this? Are you insane?

2) You post this to FI looking for support from fellow pilots...about ratting other pilots out on a mistake.

3) Your avatar....it has NO ass at all...dem pancakes.

4) You went to the media? Boy...be glad I'm cycling off my sterons and in a good mood!

5) You've GOT to be trollin'

I must disagree with you.

That a$$ aint so bad.

rr

 

[say again]

I must disagree with you.

That a$$ aint so bad.

rr

No it's not, though I do like the A$$ in my avatar just a little better. :beer:

 

[FCNelson]

The originator of this thread is clearly a troll and posted this as flame bait.

The events he described match almost perfectly the Trans States management pilot E145 aborted takeoff, where it turns out they only had one engine running. It is the incident that TSA is trying to sweep under the carpet but the FAA is investigating.

The only thing "different" was that he called the FAA.

Please do not respond any more to this thread - it is only giving yourself a heart attack for someone's perverse pleasure.

 

[pipejockey]

we confronted the crew at the gate. they missed it and they confessed. I called the feds.

What a pri*k this dou*he is.

this is for the families of the victims of colgan 3407 and comair out of Lex...people don't need to die on order for change to occur.

Really? Didn't they actually say that after Lex, and Colgan? I thought we were going to get a change to flight time and duty regs? No later than January they said! Well, that has been conveniently slipped under the dirty little rug. Regional pay and work schedules were being addressed. What happened there? Back in the closet. Nothing will ever change in this puke industry

 

[CA1900]

Regional pay and work schedules were being addressed. What happened there?

Roger Cohen offered lifetime tanning in exchange for letting it go...

 

[crj567]

this morning out of GSO our erj 145 crew flying us en route to O Hare took a takeoff clearance on runway 23. took it on the roll and lined up, applied full power. within seconds the flight spoilers deployed. at the exit, i noticed along with another pax, and a another major airline pilot, that #1 was spooling up. we all heard it. we confronted the crew at the gate. they missed it and they confessed. I called the feds. the insanity stops. this is unfathomable..

the tower said they didn't mention it...go figure...but one thing is clear ..they took the runway, lined up, applied full power to two, and then aborted, the spoilers deployed...


this story may break in the next few days... #1 was not running......

Someone should get a lawyer on your sorry butt.... This goes beyond flamebait. Making this sort of stuff up for "fun" is not cute, it is just sad

 

[ackattacker]

The originator of this thread is clearly a troll and posted this as flame bait.

The events he described match almost perfectly the Trans States management pilot E145 aborted takeoff, where it turns out they only had one engine running. It is the incident that TSA is trying to sweep under the carpet but the FAA is investigating.

The only thing "different" was that he called the FAA.

Please do not respond any more to this thread - it is only giving yourself a heart attack for someone's perverse pleasure.

I'd like to think so, but unfortunately it doesn't look like a troll to me.

And the flight details he provided actually match a specific Expressjet flight not TSA.

 

[NotTooBad]

this morning out of GSO our erj 145 crew flying us en route to O Hare took a takeoff clearance on runway 23. took it on the roll and lined up, applied full power. within seconds the flight spoilers deployed. at the exit, i noticed along with another pax, and a another major airline pilot, that #1 was spooling up. we all heard it. we confronted the crew at the gate. they missed it and they confessed. I called the feds. the insanity stops. this is unfathomable..

the tower said they didn't mention it...go figure...but one thing is clear ..they took the runway, lined up, applied full power to two, and then aborted, the spoilers deployed...


this story may break in the next few days... #1 was not running......

You truly disgust me. The Feds and the newspapers? You think productivity will come out this? GFY.

 

[jonjuan]

the insanity stops. this is unfathomable..

Exactly what insanity? That a massive percentage of legacy airline pilots once flew for regionals? That most of the current regional CAs have thousands upon thousands of hours of turbine PIC? That this could have happened at a legacy, lcc, cargo, etc just as easily? What exactly are you trying to say?
Unfortunately, he won't be slithering back any time soon.

 

[pipejockey]

Roger Cohen offered lifetime tanning in exchange for letting it go...

Roger Cohen is the REAL anti-christ. So he hits the tanning beds does he? I always just thought he was a mulatto.

 

[relief tube]

this morning out of GSO our erj 145 crew flying us en route to O Hare took a takeoff clearance on runway 23. took it on the roll and lined up, applied full power. within seconds the flight spoilers deployed. at the exit, i noticed along with another pax, and a another major airline pilot, that #1 was spooling up. we all heard it. we confronted the crew at the gate. they missed it and they confessed. I called the feds. the insanity stops. this is unfathomable..

the tower said they didn't mention it...go figure...but one thing is clear ..they took the runway, lined up, applied full power to two, and then aborted, the spoilers deployed...

this story may break in the next few days... #1 was not running......

You called the feds you ******************** - stick? Serious or are you flaming?

This'd happen every now and then if the major CA's actually did single engine taxis

Landing on a taxiway is a hell of a lot more idiotic than applying full power and aborting without even considering taking off.

 

[Crash Pad]

How is this disgusting? I don't agree with calling the feds right away as one pro to another, but come on. If it's true, then CRM in this industry needs to be re-examined.

 

[Dornier 335]

That most of the current regional CAs have thousands upon thousands of hours of turbine PIC? That this could have happened at a legacy, lcc, cargo, etc just as easily? What exactly are you trying to say?

Let's not forget that veteran RJ guys have twice (if not more) the number of sectors/legs flown per day and/or total than any legacy or cargo pilot.

This guy is a t00l, it shouldn't be difficult to find out who he is, anyone with access to the pax list out there?

The aviation world is very small. Be careful what bridge you burn. You just made the mistake of your lifetime. We will find you.

If it's true, then CRM in this industry needs to be re-examined.

... and let's not forget to analyze certain scheduling practices!

 

[Crash Pad]

AND, for those who blame the single engine taxi. Try pulling out the SINGLE ENGINE TAXI checklist. Watch out for each other sometimes.

 

[Crash Pad]

What does scheduling have to do with a possible TO sans number 1 running? If you are fatigued thats another issue, if it's the first flight of the day then sorry.

 

[tyuwerty]

A mistake was made. It was corrected before they t/o.

I see the OP didn't make a stink till after he got to where he was going. Pretty weak character on the part of the Original Poster. If it was a big enough problem in your eyes to call the Feds and the Media, it was big enough to stop the flight.

 

[paddlehigh]

you contacted the feds, you duece bag.

 

[timmay]

A mistake was made. It was corrected before they t/o.

I see the OP didn't make a stink till after he got to where he was going. Pretty weak character on the part of the Original Poster. If it was a big enough problem in your eyes to call the Feds and the Media, it was big enough to stop the flight.

The mistake was only corrected because engineers have ALMOST completely idiot proofed the cockpit. How long would it have taken them to figure out what was going on without the T/O config warning?
I don't understand how you all think these kinds of mistakes are acceptable. Obviously they didn't even glance at the EICAS before taking the runway.

Maybe some of us demand more of ourselves and our peers than others.

 

[tyuwerty]

The mistake was only corrected because engineers have ALMOST completely idiot proofed the cockpit. How long would it have taken them to figure out what was going on without the T/O config warning?
I don't understand how you all think these kinds of mistakes are acceptable. Obviously they didn't even glance at the EICAS before taking the runway.

Maybe some of us demand more of ourselves and our peers than others.

That is your opinion, it is a legitimate one at that, I disagree. Even without warnings and without looking at the gauges, I can't see anyone getting above a few knots into the T/O roll. Improperly selected flaps have killed a lot more people that taking off with half your power available. I would be surprised if it ever happened by accident on a 2 engine airplane.

However... If you are going to hold them to such a high standard. Why wait till you get to the destination to make a stink? If they were so unsafe in the eyes of the OP, that it warranted media attention, logically it would follow that they were too unsafe to fly the AC to the destination.

My beef isn't with calling the Feds, although I think that was over kill. I think that calling the Media and seeking a few minutes of fame at the expense of these guys is the real scuzzy part.

 

[DrewBlows]

Sounds like flame to me, but there is a lesson to be learned. Don't ever admit to making a mistake to a passenger or jump-seater. ASAP and/or ASRS are the way to go.

Pilots make mistakes, this will never change. The question is whether or not we learn from our mistakes.