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xjhawk

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My wife does not believe such a thing exsist, please tell her it is true! And what it is, thanks
 
'It' is a memory. :bawling:

Another consolation to our ever-expanding Nanny State.
 
It did, Ive seen it first hand. Thanks to the SWA crew for the treats. Though it was a few years back. Im guessing its no longer? The horror!!!
 
The hotels bars had to provide beers for $1, mixed drinks for $2 and it only cost each crew member $3 to each person in the bar not to tell anyone what time the crew were drinking until!:D

I KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!:p

I don't remember how it went, I am not a SW pilot, but I do remember somewhere on the East Coast at a hotel where they were provided a keg in the crew room. I was thinking is was GSO, RDU or something in that area; I'm probably completely off in the location, but it was somewhere east as I was a J41 CA and those were places I went a lot.

Cheers,

PtP
 
Sad to say it is no more. I guess we had too many guys showing up to work smelling funny, so the company is not going to negotaite those discounts any longer. It was $1 beer, $2 wine, $3 mixed drinks and 50% off top shelf or whatever else they have.
 
$1 Draft Beer, $2 wine & bottle beer, $3 mixed drinks, or 50% off top shelf. A few months ago, the company decided it was bad PR, so chose not to negotiate 1/2/3 for future hotel contracts. It still exists in hotels where the contract has yet to expire, but it will soon be a thing of the past. Things change, but this one hasn't gone over well with many SWA pilots.
 
Wish I knew how to bring back the

WORK HARD - PLAY HARD

mentality at SWA.

Gup
 
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For SWA's first 26 yrs there was no 1-2-3...it was crews, mostly CAs making sure the culture is passed along. FAs and FOs contributed greatly to that effort and certainly the lounge/restaurant and the local watering holes saw much of that occurring...again no 1-2-3.

In the last '90s, the hotel committee worked the program in and it became a part of the culture but certainly not all of it.

Society has changed, expectations have changes and liabilities are at every turn. Minimizing risk while keeping the culture is always part of the equation.

Some will use it as an excuse our culture has changing, others will press on and keep it going and never miss a beat. The choice will be each individuals. SWA did it for 25+ yrs without it...I think it is only a blip, much like other minor changes.

Just my $.02.

I broke the first rule of fight club...don't talk about it.
 
Chase,

The problem is that as a society we seem to be more and more swayed by perception and opinion even though there may not be any fact to substantiate any perceived problem. Society has become very lazy when it comes to sorting fact from fiction, and because we live in a very litigious country, the corporate culture has become very sensitive to any type of negativity (real or not) and goes into CYA mode. Personal responsibility is now just a joke, I wish it wasn't so though!
 
Beefy Botham said:
1 pairing consisting of 2 Lubbock overnights 3 times a month. A Delta guy told me this on a Lagos layover last month.
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That's actually pretty funny that someone would make that dumb statement while on a layover in Lagos. I've never understood why General and SOME overly inflated egos at Delta think that they are so cool because they layover in some of Africa's finest "garden spots." I would take a layover in Lubbock rather than Lagos ANY day! I don't care what compound you get to "hold-up" in Lagos, you can still lose your life very easily on the drive to and from the airport!

SW pilots get paid as well or better to layover for 12 hours in CONUS and Delta pilots have to fly 13-15 hours away to layover in 3rd world countries. I must be missing the comparitive advantage of the latter. Hmmmmm... Lubbock sounds nice!

Just my opinion, which doesn't matter, after being in many 3rd world countries and other "garden spots" for layovers. By the way, I know many Delta pilots that are very humble and great people; That is why I put "SOME" in my statement.

Sweet African dreams,

PtP
 
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Its 1 boy, 2 boy, 3 boys...."ok, we have all the flight attendants..lets go!"
 
Palmtree Pilot said:
That's actually pretty funny that someone would make that dumb statement while on a layover in Lagos. I've never understood why General and SOME overly inflated egos at Delta think that they are so cool because they layover in some of Africa's finest "garden spots." I would take a layover in Lubbock rather than Lagos ANY day! I don't care what compound you get to "hold-up" in Lagos, you can still lose your life very easily on the drive to and from the airport!

SW pilots get paid as well or better to layover for 12 hours in CONUS and Delta pilots have to fly 13-15 hours away to layover in 3rd world countries. I must be missing the comparitive advantage of the latter. Hmmmmm... Lubbock sounds nice!

Just my opinion, which doesn't matter, after being in many 3rd world countries and other "garden spots" for layovers. By the way, I know many Delta pilots that are very humble and great people; That is why I put "SOME" in my statement.

Sweet African dreams,

PtP
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Somebody get the defibrillator......this is gonna give GL the big one.

Clear!
 
Had Bartender in bar last month saying Hotel manager / Owner were talking about bringing back 1-2-3 on their own....

Something about sales being off (Including her tips!)

For what it's worth!
KBB
 
The SWA 1 2 3 rule? Isn't that how many times they fly through EL Paso per day on a normal 3 day rotation? That last day is a biatch!


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Palmtree Pilot said:
That's actually pretty funny that someone would make that dumb statement while on a layover in Lagos. I've never understood why General and SOME overly inflated egos at Delta think that they are so cool because they layover in some of Africa's finest "garden spots." I would take a layover in Lubbock rather than Lagos ANY day! I don't care what compound you get to "hold-up" in Lagos, you can still lose your life very easily on the drive to and from the airport!

SW pilots get paid as well or better to layover for 12 hours in CONUS and Delta pilots have to fly 13-15 hours away to layover in 3rd world countries. I must be missing the comparitive advantage of the latter. Hmmmmm... Lubbock sounds nice!

Just my opinion, which doesn't matter, after being in many 3rd world countries and other "garden spots" for layovers. By the way, I know many Delta pilots that are very humble and great people; That is why I put "SOME" in my statement.

Sweet African dreams,

PtP
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Do you really think every one of the 12,000+ pilots fly to Africa at Delta? I guess you do...???? I don't have to, and won't. Junior guys or guys on reserve may have to, but rarely by choice, although I have heard some people like it. Lagos, now that is different. The hotel there is supposedly really nice (the nicest in Town for whatever that means) for security reasons, and almost all of the INTL airlines also stay there. So, throw a bunch of junior stews and pilots together at a fairly nice hotel with barb wire fences that are 12 feet high, and you have yourself a party I guess. Apparently the place has 5 different restaurants, a nice pool area, and airline crews get big discounts. I heard it was a 3 day trip worth 29 hours (2 legs boys)---so that could be nice.

I happen to enjoy Europe, and enjoy the layovers over and over again. I plan out where I want to go after my nap and workout, and then I go explore and find great restaurants and watch the locals while drinking a tasty brew. I leave feeling like I actually got paid to see something new and taste a great meal I can't get here in the States. At the same time, I get to enjoy a wonderful ice cream sundae while looking at Greenland pass by. It never gets old. But, you will feel older doing 5 or 6 legs a day around Texas. Enjoy AMA and HRL.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Ky.BrownBourbn said:
Had Bartender in bar last month saying Hotel manager / Owner were talking about bringing back 1-2-3 on their own....

Something about sales being off (Including her tips!)

For what it's worth!
KBB
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I didn't have a drinking problem before all this. I do now! My problem is that good beer went from $2 to $6.

On the bright side - I've lost 5 pounds in the past couple months!

Gup
 
General Lee said:
I get to enjoy a wonderful ice cream sundae while looking at Greenland pass by. It never gets old. But, you will feel older doing 5 or 6 legs a day around Texas. Enjoy AMA and HRL.


Bye Bye---General Lee
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We'll all feel old after 30 years of 3 AM wake-up calls and high altitude radiation.

Enjoy your sundae,
Gup :rolleyes:
 
GuppyWN said:
We'll all feel old after 30 years of 3 AM wake-up calls and high altitude radiation.

Enjoy your sundae,
Gup :rolleyes:
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Do you guys get up at 3am? If we do in Europe, we also go to bed at 4pm in the States, right? I get about 8 hours of good sleep at the hotel the night before, and then also get 3 hours during the flight, in the rest seat. The key for me is to take only a 2-3 hour nap upon arrival, and then get up and work out. A good walk and good dinner afterwards also helps. When do you guys catch a bit of shut eye? During approach on your 4th leg of the day into MAF? Sleepy Texas town....

BTW, the sudaes are always good. :)


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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GuppyWN said:
We'll all feel old after 30 years of 3 AM wake-up calls and high altitude radiation.

Enjoy your sundae,
Gup :rolleyes:
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Come over to the Dark Side, Gup. I haven't woke up to an alarm clock in years! :cool:
 
I have noticed the General spends a lot of time trying to convince himself how great his job is and how lousy it is at SWA. Seems like I remember, from a long past Pysch class, that they have a name for that condition, I mean besides jealousy.
 
Moon-dog said:
I have noticed the General spends a lot of time trying to convince himself how great his job is and how lousy it is at SWA. Seems like I remember, from a long past Pysch class, that they have a name for that condition, I mean besides jealousy.
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How are things going so far?
 

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