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Is the 'worm turning'? Could SWA finally be going international (Canada)?

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Our Response to WestJet Comments

Blog By: Bob Jordan on Apr 01, 2010 at 3:11pm
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As you all have seen in recent media reports, we learned that WestJet apparently intends to enter into a codeshare agreement with Delta Air Lines. At about the same time, we also learned of a deal by which Delta would transfer slots at LaGuardia Airport in New York to WestJet. A codeshare between WestJet and Delta, as indicated in media reports, could be inconsistent with the agreement presently in place between us and WestJet.

The Southwest/WestJet project was on target in accordance with a mutually agreed upon timetable. However, WestJet in recent weeks requested material and significant changes to our agreement that we could not accept. We are, and always have been, prepared to move forward to implement our agreement with WestJet. We have not yet been notified of WestJet’s intent to terminate that agreement. If we are so notified in order for WestJet to consummate its deal with Delta, we remain very interested in offering our loyal Customers service to Canada via the most efficient means possible.
 
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Well when you merge with AAI you will have aircraft with a two class configuration already set up to start flying internationally.
 
They just mean we're still committed to finding a new Codeshare partner like Porter, CanJet, Sun Wing, or Air Transat!
 
It'd be fine with me if we go hand WestJet their ass while Delta outsources MORE flying.

Gup
 
GuppyWN said:
It'd be fine with me if we go hand WestJet their ass while Delta outsources MORE flying.

Gup
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:rolleyes: I really don't see where Southwest would be able to begin "handing WestJet their ass".

Start a few routes to Canada, maybe...but hardly an ass whoopin.
 
boeingdriver213 said:
Don't care as long as we keep making money....
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Luckily that's the attitude the guys running your company seem to have.
None of this John Wayne " watch us destroy you" crap.

I don't see any wild expansion or overnight attacks on the MKE/DEN market that some were spouting off about when the F9 thing didn't work out, everything's seemed pretty steady with everyone holding their own (for now) from what I can tell....if it's going to be a blood bath, it looks like it's going to be a slow one.
 
So was Midwest.

What's your point?

Gup

p.s. You guys go ahead and circle jerk each other with your codeshare. I'd rather do it ourselves.
 
I hope we go ahead and do it. We don't need WestJet. I don't think our engines will quit when we cross the border. Maybe this is the "wake-up" call that Gary needs. We got airplanes, pilots, personnel, and we won't outsource. Let's do it.

If only I were CEO for a day....;)
 
I heard that the U.S. is gonna conquer Canada, SWA is gonna buy Air Canada, ebay California to the lowest bidder, keep the the U.S. flag the same, and keep on keepin' on. A ramper told me this that heard it from his Grandma who was in Toronto. She saw U.S. fighters, tanks, and SWA equipment on the ramp.
 
Its the Alaska buyout! It gets SWA Canada, Mexico and Hawaii in one fell swoop. You heard it here first.
 
redflyer65 said:
Might be one of the best things to happen to WN in quite awhile. Time to really use the slogan "Its ON".
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WestJet used your business "model" and would have been a perfect partner for you, but they saw something else of value with DL. Their 737s have liveTV too and could have brought UP your product. Oh well, keep on truckin in ELP and LBB......


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
General Lee said:
WestJet used your business "model" and would have been a perfect partner for you, but they saw something else of value with DL. Their 737s have liveTV too and could have brought UP your product. Oh well, keep on truckin in ELP and LBB......


Bye Bye--General Lee
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LOL...... Jealousy is an ugly thing GL!
 
General Lee said:
WestJet used your business "model" and would have been a perfect partner for you, but they saw something else of value with DL. Their 737s have liveTV too and could have brought UP your product. Oh well, keep on truckin in ELP and LBB......


Bye Bye--General Lee
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Sounds like an awesome deal for DAL. Matter of fact, DAL should have West Jet do all the DAL flying. Now if only DAL management can get the rest of the DAL pilots to think like the General. More DAL flying going to someone else (just like the RJ flying ) and you see it as being good for you.
 
Tripower455 said:
LOL...... Jealousy is an ugly thing GL!
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So is your Mom!(just jokin---don't get all fired up) Hey, I am not jealous that you guys get to go to ELP, MAF, LBB, ISP, or HRL. You can have it. Your pay is pretty good, something that DL pilots need to improve on (your rates are thanks to DAL's C2K rates anyway---no way for you to deny that), but other than that you guys are really well paid regional pilots, flying 737s. No reason to be jealous about multiple leg days with 25 min turns also. Regardless, enjoy your trips----I do. I bet I can remember with fondness where I went 3 trips ago. All you can remember is that ELP was probably one of the stops---such a blur.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
slaquer5 said:
Sounds like an awesome deal for DAL. Matter of fact, DAL should have West Jet do all the DAL flying. Now if only DAL management can get the rest of the DAL pilots to think like the General. More DAL flying going to someone else (just like the RJ flying ) and you see it as being good for you.
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Can Westjet do all of DL's current Canada flying? Guess what? Currently RJs do the flying, and there are NO flights currently between LGA and Toronto (YYZ), where the first tie up is proposed. DL mainline hasn't flown to Canada (except YVR nonstop from ATL--too far for RJs) in years! Would it be nice to recapture some of that flying? You bet, and it may be in the works now that there might be a tie up. Maybe there will be DC9s thrown on some of the routes to YYZ from ATL etc. Without the agreement, it looks like RJs will continue.

It sure seems to me that your own management was not happy about this move by Westjet, since Kelly already doesn't trust you guys flying outside the contiguous 48 states. But hey, maybe you guys will announce new nonstop service from ELP to CLE and ISP! Go for it, it will probably be FANTASTIC.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Moon-dog said:
Yep, you are still an idiot!!
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You still can't handle the TRUTH. (or understand it obviously) Try to back up what you say with an argument. Too bad you are afraid to.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Why should anyone try to use truth when having a conversation with you, when the truth/logic mysteriously escapes everything you say?????
 
GuppyWN said:
It'd be fine with me if we go hand WestJet their ass while Delta outsources MORE flying.

Gup
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Arrogance knows no boundaries.....

Outsource Winnepeg all you want, I'll be in Prague next week, lemme know how it all goes for your codeshare dreams!!
 
General Lee said:
So is your Mom!(just jokin---don't get all fired up) Hey, I am not jealous that you guys get to go to ELP, MAF, LBB, ISP, or HRL. You can have it. Your pay is pretty good, something that DL pilots need to improve on (your rates are thanks to DAL's C2K rates anyway---no way for you to deny that), but other than that you guys are really well paid regional pilots, flying 737s. No reason to be jealous about multiple leg days with 25 min turns also. Regardless, enjoy your trips----I do. I bet I can remember with fondness where I went 3 trips ago. All you can remember is that ELP was probably one of the stops---such a blur.


Bye Bye--General Lee
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I am not all fired up. I agree with all of the above and that's not a bad thing.

To each his own, but with as much as you repeat the same thing over and over, one can only surmise that you are insanely jealous of WN guys.

I mean, WHY else would you repeat the same stuff, ad nauseum? Really, why do you care if I have LBB layovers (I haven't even landed there in a year or 2, much less overnighted)? You don't want to do it, great, you're not doing it. I don't mind them, since a hotel is a hotel is a hotel, and I am not at work to socialize or sightsee. I socialize on my days off and can sightsee on vacation on my own time.

International flying is over-rated. It's fun for a while, but in the end, I'll take my well paid, 12 day per month "regional" job (that covers the entire US) over 20+ years of sleep deprivation.


I am happy with my job at WN, and you say you're happy with yours, why not give it a rest? I shudder to think of what my life would be like had I gone to DAL in '98, but I'm glad your happy......

Oh, and I love ISP overnights. I've got free lunch in every direction (including my folks house) there. I wish I could get more of them!
 
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Whataburger said:
General, you sound happy your company gave away more flying?
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No kidding! General, why aren't you outraged with this? Haven't you guys given away enough flying already? Are you just numb to it now?

I for one am THRILLED that, for the time being anyway, we are still a NO CODESHARE company!!!!
 

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