Tranny Talkin'?

[JerryLundegaard]

"We are finally going to see exactly what we are asking from the union and sooner or later the company is going to put a counter proposal out there and show us how much they value our hard work."

So if management's proposals are inadequate, at what point is mediation pursued? Are the talks currently under any sort of scrutiny by federal mediators?

 

[Mr Wu]

It's not apples to apples. You also have to consider the tax rate.

And understand how the tax rates work. It's apples to apples.

 

[BR715]

The union came out with an e-mail today saying that the company has walked away from the table. Also the mediator is thinking about canceling the rest of the scheduled meeting dates for march. Sounds like a perfect time for a strike vote to me.

 

[FIREMAN]

The union came out with an e-mail today saying that the company has walked away from the table. Also the mediator is thinking about canceling the rest of the scheduled meeting dates for march. Sounds like a perfect time for a strike vote to me.

That is not even close to what the e-mail said.

 

[BR715]

I was told that is what it said by another crew member while i was on the line. I cannot get me e-mail write now please let us all know what it said.

 

[Guppy Guy]

Brief summary:
Last two sections were put on the table. Pay and Scheduling. Management threw a predictable tantrum (read as standard posturing). Mediator decided nothing else could be accomplished that day so the rest of the session was convened for the afternoon (it was the last day of talks). Company requested next weeks talks be canceled (read as more posturing). No response yet from mediator on that.

No one walked away from the table. Talks are still on for March. Nothing has been canceled.

This is all predictable and SOP for contract talks/maneuvering. Stay tuned.

 

[maxblast72]

That is a perfect summary.

As stated, it is really important to stay informed and save your money.

 

[TV9Driver]

its hard to save money when your salary doesn't even cover your bills....

 

[BR715]

I still think a strike vote is in order. I know what you all are going to say, but I think we will get enough guys to vote yes to make this thing work.

 

[dh82dvr]

I think managements issue is transparency in scheduling. They would like to keep everyone in the dark.

 

[JerryLundegaard]

I think managements issue is transparency in scheduling. They would like to keep everyone in the dark.

So when trips are awarded to another pilot can you see if proper seniority was used, or how someone was paid?

Can you see how much coverage there is on a given day, or what another pilot's protected rest period is? Or are the issues different ones?

 

[RedDogC130]

I was told that is what it said by another crew member while i was on the line. I cannot get me e-mail write now please let us all know what it said.

If you did not read it then STFU.....nobody want to hear what you heard from a FA probably....read first....type second...not a difficult concept.

 

[maxblast72]

its hard to save money when your salary doesn't even cover your bills....

Even if this is a true statement for your particular situation, you probably need to start posting you are prepared financially to take a strike for a week, month, or whatever it takes to get a contract that rewards our hard work. Or just email Klaus and tell him your financial status guaratees you won't go on strike when ALPA asks you too.

 

[maxblast72]

I still think a strike vote is in order. I know what you all are going to say, but I think we will get enough guys to vote yes to make this thing work.

You can be assured the MEC and SPC are working with ALPA working on a timeline that maximizes our leverage over the next several months.

 

[maxblast72]

I think managements issue is transparency in scheduling. They would like to keep everyone in the dark.

The words the MEC is using is predictable and transparent scheduling. That is definitely a fair and achievable goal.