Who is Skywest pilot in Utah who was in USAToday Editorials on FRI?

[johnsonrod]

I'll tell you what he will be: a lifer at Skywest. Did anyone read what he stated about "experience" levels? He claimed a regional pilot who flies into mountain towns with short runways and "2 miles visability" have more "experience" than mainline pilots who fly LAX to JFK. Say WHAT? I am glad he gave his full name too, that is one less guy I have to compete with to get my future legacy job. Talk about a bonehead move. A friend of mine at a legacy already said people there were posting that editorial comment on the wall of the crew lounge. He better get used to living in Utah for the rest of his life, and getting some "Big Love" action. LOL!

 

[Jar Jar]

I am glad he gave his full name too, that is one less guy I have to compete with to get my future legacy job. Talk about a bonehead move.

Okay this part i dont get. Say the guy isn't a lifer, and goes and applies at DAL three years from now, what about appearing in a newspaper is going to stop him from getting the job?

Is anybody going to remember some random name 1 or 3 years from now? Let alone the people making hiring decisions?

 

[johnsonrod]

Okay this part i dont get. Say the guy isn't a lifer, and goes and applies at DAL three years from now, what about appearing in a newspaper is going to stop him from getting the job?

Is anybody going to remember some random name 1 or 3 years from now? Let alone the people making hiring decisions?

Never put your name in a National newspaper for every airline pilot to read, and then make fun of mainline experience. This guy has no brain, or didn't think of the ramifications. I don't think it was very smart, and maybe a backround check, even on Google, would bring up that editorial comment.

 

[Metro752]

........... ha ha

 

[CesnaCaptn]

Have a link?

 

[Erlanger]

Have a link?

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2010/02/letters-pilots-face-pressure-to-fly.html

 

[Erlanger]

........... ha ha

Why did you edit your comment? What you had originally was great.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I'll trust my life to the pilot who flies four or five times a day to an airport that has a short runway in the mountains with 2 miles of visibility over the pilot who takes off from Los Angeles International Airport

The words "as much as" would have sounded better.

 

[likeitis]

Okay this part i dont get. Say the guy isn't a lifer, and goes and applies at DAL three years from now, what about appearing in a newspaper is going to stop him from getting the job?

Is anybody going to remember some random name 1 or 3 years from now? Let alone the people making hiring decisions?

Yes they will remember. Also with modern technology you are only a google search away.

 

[DX Rick]

Never put your name in a National newspaper for every airline pilot to read, and then make fun of mainline experience. This guy has no brain, or didn't think of the ramifications. I don't think it was very smart, and maybe a backround check, even on Google, would bring up that editorial comment.

Just wondering how long you have been in this industry for? How long have you been on these boards?
Years ago there was a Chicago Express pilot who slammed Mayor Dick Daley and their destruction of Meigs Field in Chicago, and how the flow from that airport is now jamming up Midway. He also called out the airlines based in the city for not confronting the Mayor about it.
The guys here on FI.com said his career was over, he would never work anywhere ever again. ATA's CEO and VP called for this guys job to be terminated because he attacked ATA , the Mayor and at the end of the article signed his whole name.
Absolutely nothing happened to this guy, except for a talking to from the VP of C8. Last I heard, he's LUVin life on the 737.

You think with the 100,000's of resumes that the airlines receive when the hire date opens, they will be looking for this guys name on the resume? Do you even think really look at the guys name when sending him an interview date? Out of all the HR personal that each airline has, all of them will have heard of this story? And let's say they have. You think the HR people or the pilots doing the interview will really care what this guy said about who is more experienced? These guys doing interviews know that pilots are very opinionated and some pilots have very whacky opinions.

It was a bad way to word it. He could have said that the regional guys fly into those conditions on a daily basis, where a mainline guy might do it once or twice a month...if at all, I don't know what their routes are over there.

This isn't even a bad thing he said, but obviously you are offended by it. Do you feel inferior to those SKW pilots? How about you contact the writer of the article and tell him what you think. Or you can just call Bob at Enzyte, try his product. If it works, your inferior complex should go away. If not, well I suggest an armour suit if your skin is so thin.

 

[DX Rick]

Yes they will remember. Also with modern technology you are only a google search away.

That's if they remember this guys name when the hiring spree starts again, which is years away. HR peeps and pilots meet thousands of people a year, they don't remember everyones names.
So that is going to require a google search for that SKW pilot, which in about a year or two, you will need to have a pretty accurate quote from the article, otherwise it's going to be buried under a lot of cyber garbage. They will find it will time though.....but not sure if you know any HR people.
HR and pilots on the hiring board are busy people. They don't just sit around and google all of the applicants names. People slip by. I'm sure you've asked yourself about a couple of guys "How did this guy ever get hired?".

One of my ex's working HR at the same airline as I. You know how many pilots inform HR and VP of Op's, that Joe Shmoe has applied, and the guy is a complete scum bag? How many times Joe Shmoe slips through the cracks and get hired? For example, my first airline, this kid applied and when word got around he was trying to get hired, there had to be atleast 10-15 pilots who warned HR about him. When they found out he was offered a class date, almost every single SIU alumni called HR and the VP and told them how they just made the biggest mistake, and they couldn't have been more correct. The pilots nick named him "Mr. MyDadisaCaptainAtUnited".

 

[ePilot22]

I'll tell you what he will be: a lifer at Skywest. Did anyone read what he stated about "experience" levels? He claimed a regional pilot who flies into mountain towns with short runways and "2 miles visability" have more "experience" than mainline pilots who fly LAX to JFK. Say WHAT? I am glad he gave his full name too, that is one less guy I have to compete with to get my future legacy job. Talk about a bonehead move. A friend of mine at a legacy already said people there were posting that editorial comment on the wall of the crew lounge. He better get used to living in Utah for the rest of his life, and getting some "Big Love" action. LOL!

Shut up, nancy.




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[say again]

The words "as much as" would have sounded better.

True, just a bad choice of words. Lets move on people.

The flying is more challenging, but to say they have more experience is false.

 

[flyn96]

True, just a bad choice of words. Lets move on people.

The flying is more challenging, but to say they have more experience is false.

At Mesaba we have several hundred pilots with more experience than Delta Mainline pilots. Why is the so hard to believe. I will give you the AVERAGE experience level may be higher at mainline but there are many pilots at Comair, Mesaba, Eagle that have more experience than mainline guys.

Why you gotta crucify a guy for pointing out a fact. People are freaked out bye everything they read in the USA today. Why not provide some facts about regional carriers that have experienced crews, flying small aircraft into small communities. At Mesaba yes we did have some very low time Fo's, but that was offset by the fact that the average time for Captains was almost 10 years. We did have some street Captains, 20 ish I believe, but all of them had many years experience at other regionals like Eagle.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Where Robert Loutzenhiser is wrong is the legacy airlines have 70 years of training and multinational corporations' budget to fund it. Throwing your fellow pilots under the bus is bad form. We are all in this together.

Where he is right is, regional pilots are probably the hardest working pilots and most resourceful. There is something to be said of a wanna be pilot that sets him/herself up to be underpaid and overwork.... and consistently does the job safely over and over. That is impressive.

 

[say again]

At Mesaba we have several hundred pilots with more experience than Delta Mainline pilots. Why is the so hard to believe. I will give you the AVERAGE experience level may be higher at mainline but there are many pilots at Comair, Mesaba, Eagle that have more experience than mainline guys.

Of course you are going to have experienced pilots at the regionals, common sense will tell you that. I was referring to pilot groups as a whole. Don't forget that many mainline pilots went thru the ranks as regional pilots, flying lesser sophisticated equipment in the same conditions. Look at the vast majority of pilots from each group (CA and FO) and you will see that the experience levels are higher at mainline (which doenst mean regional pilots are inexperienced, well, some are).

So I stand by my above statement,

 

[CX880]

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2010/02/letters-pilots-face-pressure-to-fly.html

While I think the point he was trying to make was valid, that the experience depends on what type of flying your doing, he made it sound like the 757 pilot has less experience than the tprop guy in the trenches which of course is not true.

 

[say again]

t Mesaba yes we did have some very low time Fo's, but that was offset by the fact that the average time for Captains was almost 10 years. We did have some street Captains, 20 ish I believe, but all of them had many years experience at other regionals like Eagle.

Offsetting experience levels? Your rationalization on the matter is scary. So 10 yrs experience beats out over 40 yrs + at mainline (combined crew)?!?!

 

[ePilot22]

I'll tell you what he will be: a lifer at Skywest. LOL! He better get used to living in Utah for the rest of his life, and getting some "Big Love" action. Did anyone read what he stated about "experience" levels? A friend of mine at a legacy already said people there were posting that editorial comment on the wall of the crew lounge. Say WHAT? Talk about a bonehead move. I am glad he gave his full name too, that is one less guy I have to compete with to get my future legacy job.

Reread this post. Is that what you said? Any bets USA Today did the same thing?

Only Mr. Loutzenhiser and the editorial Editor know exactly what was written.




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[robair73]

How about this? Who Cares? Lame post