ASA Vacancy Notice

[Data]

So the 700's going to open up (Delta increases utilization) and 30+ more crews to IAD. This next round should be interesting.

 

[jstyle13]

Probably going to be some FO upgrades to the left seat in IAD. Doubt there will be a lot of captains bid to go from ATL/IAD again. Are we replacing all Mesa flying out of IAD or just a portion?

 

[CFI2766]

This appears to be some good news for ASA folks for a change. Good to see.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Could we maybe see the rest of those (6) -200 head to IAD for United?

 

[gator_hater]

Probably going to be some FO upgrades to the left seat in IAD. Doubt there will be a lot of captains bid to go from ATL/IAD again. Are we replacing all Mesa flying out of IAD or just a portion?

How about the bottom half of IAD will just be on reserve for ever. The next 30 will probably be all be senior to them.

 

[ASACRJFlyer]

Here's to hoping this will bring back some of our furloughed brethren and put some of our displacees back in the left seat!

 

[samuraiguytn]

I heard some insider news(from ATECH) that the 6 rjs have been aproved by delta to do some at risk flying.

 

[enuffalready]

ok... so will they put out a vacancy bid first, then if not enough people take it, put out a displacement?

 

[centralpilot]

Here's to hoping this will bring back some of our furloughed brethren and put some of our displacees back in the left seat!

I seriously doubt than we'll see any recalls for this, but it looks like more displaced captains can get their stripes back if they want to go to IAD.

 

[www.]

How about the bottom half of IAD will just be on reserve for ever. The next 30 will probably be all be senior to them.

DING DING DING

The smart ones waited for the second round to see what happens i.e. city pairs, types and quality of trips.

Trips / lines do not start getting good until you see atleast 10 a/c at a base.

 

[79%N1]

Here's to hoping this will bring back some of our furloughed brethren and put some of our displacees back in the left seat!

Nope. 39 vacancy's and 39 positions open. 29 in IAD and 10 on the 700.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Good for you guys.

 

[sunlitpath]

Nothing good about it. There is no net gain in captain or first officer positions. I was hoping for less reductions, that would have been good.

 

[ASACRJFlyer]

After reading the notice, I was a little disappointed to say the least. This isn't really any improvement at ASA, just a numbers shuffle. It's actually going to hurt some Captains that aren't willing to go to IAD, they're going to be back in the right seat. If there is a bright side, it's that some FO's hoping to upgrade and willing to commute or move just might get that chance.

 

[Abernathy]

Only 6 CR7 FO vacancies. I thought there'd be more considering how many CR7 FOs went over to IAD as CRJ FOs.

 

[SLUF4]

Don't worry; they'll just keep on using instructors to fill the void in positions like they've been doing for months now

 

[sweptback]

Only 6 CR7 FO vacancies. I thought there'd be more considering how many CR7 FOs went over to IAD as CRJ FOs.

They were already replaced on the last position notice.

 

[Data]

The increased utilization means little for the line pilot in relation to their seat held. As someone else mentioned, there is no net gain of captains. This is just the next round of which base you will call 'home'.

 

[jstyle13]

DING DING DING

The smart ones waited for the second round to see what happens i.e. city pairs, types and quality of trips.

Trips / lines do not start getting good until you see atleast 10 a/c at a base.

What sux is that we are only going to get to take a look at the FEB lines before we have to decide to bid IAD or not. I was hoping the bid wouldn't close until mid FEB. I would imagine when they add the remaning cities, that there will be more trip diversity...at least I hope so. I'm gonna bid it cause I'm tired of sitting SCR in ATL for 2+ years. Gonna be a tougher commute but I'll swap that to get off reserve and make some extra $$ finally.

 

[79%N1]

Will IAD crews be allowed to swap trips for open ATL trips?

 

[Data]

What sux is that we are only going to get to take a look at the FEB lines before we have to decide to bid IAD or not. I was hoping the bid wouldn't close until mid FEB. I would imagine when they add the remaning cities, that there will be more trip diversity...at least I hope so. I'm gonna bid it cause I'm tired of sitting SCR in ATL for 2+ years. Gonna be a tougher commute but I'll swap that to get off reserve and make some extra $$ finally.

The junior Captains on the 700 who go to IAD will be sitting middle of the pack, hopefully getting decent lines with good value. That will be the consolation prize, 2+ years of reserve to middle line holder will be a welcome change.

 

[sunlitpath]

The junior Captains on the 700 who go to IAD will be sitting middle of the pack, hopefully getting decent lines with good value. That will be the consolation prize, 2+ years of reserve to middle line holder will be a welcome change.

Some will be in the middle, some will fall toward the bottom. It depends who bids for what and where. It's really a big mess.

 

[Data]

Some will be in the middle, some will fall toward the bottom. It depends who bids for what and where. It's really a big mess.

50% company seniority (around 850) gets you into the 21-23 out of 30 range up there now, if this goes junior, that same guy/gal will be sitting at about 26-30 out of 60. I think it's going to go junior, but that's just my opinion.

 

[sweptback]

Will IAD crews be allowed to swap trips for open ATL trips?

Who would cover the IAD trips?

 

[Flybywire44]

Will IAD crews be allowed to swap trips for open ATL trips?

Certainly not... They're not going to staff reserves to cover cross base swaps.

THIS IS NOT A VACANCY BID! IT IS A DISPLACEMENT IN DISGUISE! I love how they call it a vacancy when the word reduction is also in the bid.

But thats marketing I guess. :uzi:

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Certainly not... They're not going to staff reserves to cover cross base swaps.

THIS IS NOT A VACANCY BID! IT IS A DISPLACEMENT IN DISGUISE! I love how they call it a vacancy when the word reduction is also in the bid.

But thats marketing I guess. :uzi:

Well, short term you may be right, but contractually they cannot stop it IF there is adequate staffing.

It is a vacancy bid and a displacement bid. The company is shifting resources from one place to another. Yes, there are some reductions, but what is the net gain or loss from the vacancies and reductions.... ZERO.

 

[Plainsman]

You guys might need to research the picking up trips in other bases. I think we will be able to.

 

[79%N1]

You guys might need to research the picking up trips in other bases. I think we will be able to.

Picking up yes, we can do. I was curious about dropping and swapping.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

That's gonna be a tough one. Back when DFW was alive you could do swaps if I'm not mistaken, but that was a different era.

 

[ASAFOE120]

That's gonna be a tough one. Back when DFW was alive you could do swaps if I'm not mistaken, but that was a different era.

You are correct!