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lineflyer1

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I talked with a Freedom Airlines pilot this weekend and he said they are getting ready to furlough 300 pilots.

Is that possible? Does Freedom have that many pilots, or was he perhaps referencing Mesa overall?

How many pilots work for Freedom?
 
I would venture to say that your friend could have meant either Freedom as a whole or Mesa. According to some quick research, Freedom operates a total of 34 ERJ-145s, of which 30 are Delta Connection, 3 "dedicated" to another operation, and 1 spare. A fleet of 34 aircraft requires 306 total pilots at the industry "norm" of 4.5 employees per seat position. With the DHC-8 flying going away in April, 16 aircraft on the Mesa side are overstaffed.
 
300 from Mesa Air Group as a whole, and correction to the last poster Freedom is operating 20 ERJs for Delta, the rest are subleased or in storage.
 
Thanks for the update. I don't work there, so can only go off of what I found.
 
Wow how the times have changed....

300 from Mesa Air Group as a whole, and correction to the last poster Freedom is operating 20 ERJs for Delta, the rest are subleased or in storage.

Back in 2001 after being furloughed from a major, a MESA pilot told me right here on this very forum that I was foolish in not going to MESA as they will always have growth and business because that is the future.
I guess he failed to see the other competition.....
 
I hate it when that happens.:eek:
 
Back in 2001 after being furloughed from a major, a MESA pilot told me right here on this very forum that I was foolish in not going to MESA as they will always have growth and business because that is the future.
I guess he failed to see the other competition.....

Your Point?
 
Isn't Freedom the non-union airline that Mesa opened up to whipsaw against the Mesa ALPA pilots during contract negotiations? If so then I hope they are bearing the brunt of the furloughs and no I don't feel sorry for them. Despite what many of you think of Mesa as a company, their pilots are dues paying ALPA members who have been put through the ringer. They are no different than you or I, they took the first RJ job they could get and stuck with it to get the time to move onto to bigger and better pastures. If I am correct in my recollection of the start of Freedom, then they rank right up there with GoJets in my book.

If I am wrong, please correct me and accept my apology in advance. If not, enjoy unemployment as your furlough has just helped an ALPA member remain employed.
 
Mesa pilots pretty much gave it all up in '05 to get Freedumb on the ALPA list.
 

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